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Peters out by december and you have to remember, one, we have a very long primary season right now, right. they started this, what, some people would consider the money primary very, very early with a ton of candidates. the system is also built in such a way that iowa comes first and then new hampshire. those are states, a lot of people harp on they're very white states and does that make it harder for kamala harris. i'm not sure that's totally the -- totally the right thing. i think that is part of it. it has to do with okay, if this is the system and you think you can play sort of larger 50 ...

Investing in and building local elected leadership, starting from school boards, and building up to state legislators and then legislatures and building beyond, and traditionally, with the exception of obviously howard dean with the 50 state strategy, trying to move the party to think more wholistically at the state level, never really jumping in and doing it, wanting the bright shiny object and the bright shiny object too often doesn't look like us. >> yes. i think of scott walker in that sense. scott walker came up from being a city official and they groomed him up to governor. it can really...

And save hundreds of dollars a year. now that's simple, easy, awesome. get $100 back when you bring in an eligible phone. click, call, or visit a store today. the 50 state strategy usually means presidential hopefuls hitting up as many states as possible to win the election. not russia's own campaign to

Their early state strategy will be. what about joe biden? he's in germany at the munich security conference. he makes important points about his gravitas as a statesman and foreign policy experience as well. even though biden hasn't been to a lot of the early states, others have. this is since the beginning of the year. elizabeth warren leading the group with early state visits. through tomorrowdelaney, 6. kirsten gillibrand, cory booker. a lot of people making a lot of moves in early states. what about those who still haven't decided yet? still major questions about these candidates right her...

Are you going to pay for it but also how are you going to define yourself? i'm not sure watching her speech, which no question it was a wonderful rollout, great pictures there, well-delivered speech, but what is her presidency about? we know what warren is running on, we know what gillibrand is running on. there was a comparison to the junior senator from illinois. i think a more apt comparison right now is the junior senator four years ago from florida, a candidate that came in with a lot of hype, with a lot of promise and a late state strategy, quite frankly. >> marco rubio. i think there is...