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how they thought that the case of 303 creative would be narrowly defined. and i was in agreement with you that i hope that is the case because i think a lot of people have been looking at that and seeing it as opening the floodgates to possible discrimination against lgbtq members for whatever reason, you know, services, or free speech. but at the end of the day, it has created the lgbtq community or made them feel like second class citizens in this country. >> absolutely. i was also, you know, glad to hear it presented in that way that perhaps, it's a lot more-limited, and it can be...

Up behind the walking demand in control white-collar criminal who just commits crimes as easily as he breathes, who lies as easily as he breathes, and all the while, they are trying to convince the rest of us that they are the party of law and order. it doesn't really add up. >> renato, we mentioned that the new york times in that times article, jack smith's investigator is paying a lot of attention to new jersey and the golf course in bedminster. and the recording that he made there, judge aileen cannon is handing down unfavorable rulings in florida, at least so far. can -- if that does happe...

Been in their opinion sincere in trying to come to common ground, which is what we want. certainly some of us have our views, but we want to see this come together, the civil rights leaders hope to talk all sides, hope to talk to the president. but again, this is not about drama. this is about change. and sometimes people are going to have to have the spirit of change as the priority. and that's what i think all sides are committed to. but let me bring you to a situation closer to home. you for many years have been a congressman from louisiana, and there has been now a tape that has come out o...