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Years. we so there you hear it there, defiance, ongoing, from people here, demonstrators who have gathered here despite a curfew that the outgoing defense minister called for on state television saying, please, adhere to a curfew that s supposed to have started moments ago and continue until 8:00 in the morning. ivan watson, cnn, cairo. ivan joins me now. it was interesting to hear those fighter jets go over. if it was meant to cow people, if it was meant to scare them, it didn t seem to have that effect. no, just the opposite. it was interesting also that everybody interpreted that as a kind of warning, as a form of intimidation and they refused to follow that, if anything, the chanting accelerated at that moment. there are, as we ve said, soldiers all over the streets and there is this really interesting relationship between the egyptian people and the ....