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These are fringe, even racist beliefs such as his campaign to suggest the first african-american president was born in africa, or his ridiculous claim that he saw on tv thousands of arab americans in new jersey celebrating 9/11. those are claims that are inaccurate and bigoted and indecent. there are too many to go through but we all remember of course his campaign -- or i'm sorry his presidency began when he took issue when the national park service clearly demonstrated that his inaugural crowds were smaller than that of his predecessor. but this -- this is something else. the president is no...

Days ago, i haven't spoken with you since he released a statement siding with the saudis, maybe he did, maybe he didn't referring to mbs, of the whole thing, what was most unsettling to you when you first read it? >> i mean, beyond the fact as far as a statement goes, it was written as if it was penned by a middle schooler, not the president of the united states. it just -- beyond smearing jamal as some sort of enemy of the state of saudi arabia, which he wasn't, i think what was most disturbing about that is, first of all, nobody is claiming that we want to break relations with saudi arabia. ...