as we see this splits. yes, let me walk you through donald trump s strategy over the next three days to do the ten state splits. we are calling that hillary clinton s blue firewall, the states of wisconsin and pennsylvania. that s one region and then you know donald trump has to be able to win the must-win florida and north carolina. if he does not win any of those states, this race is over. he has to be able to hone onto that. he wants to be able to go out to the west and see if he could pick off a state like colorado, for example, that helps him out. just to kind of show you then, you know, hillary clinton s holds. pennsylvania is critical to that. michigan is critical to that. that s a reliably blue state and she will be here later today. and campaigning later on tonight with jay z, she s adding a stop this weekend. the polls are all tied up. she s battling for every vote and not taking any vote for granted, thomas. kristen, standby, lets go to our katy tur. this rhetoric that trump is using that clinton is likely under an investigation for a long time, america deserves a president who can go to work on day one. is this red meat where the folks already supported? well, it is. it is aimed at those republicans that are out there that are uncomfortable with donald trump and trying to get them to get up and get out and go to the polling booth and cast their ballots for trump and instead of somebody like a third party candidate or somebody they made perhaps write in and as we saw, some folks say they re going to write in a third party candidate including john kasich who wrote in john mccain when he was? ohio. what they are trying to do is paint hillary clinton as somebody that s so questionable and somebody who has so many issues in office and including an investigation and they within the to say it will end up with a criminal indictment even though they do not know that s going to happen. so they can scare those republicans into coming home. mit romney enjoyed a lot more republican support than donald trump has at the moment over 93% or 94% or 95%. in order for donald trump to be competitive or any democrats for that matter, he s going to slit f solidify all the republican votes as they can. there is some indications that is working. i was talking to sources in new hampshire who tells me the polls are tightening in that state. republicans are coming home to donald trump in a way where they have not seen before this past week. they re still unsure that he will be able to pull it off in new hampshire but hopeful than they were a week ago and above anything else of what this is happening, of kellyanne conway and new hampshire and pennsylvania and others across the country including marco rubio and florida. they are going to don t do this and they hope that donald trump stays on message and we see him on the campaign trail and he acknowledges this and at oftentimes he can be his own wor words. we know that toomey you katie and kristen welker, has team trump responded about upcoming indictment for clinton? reporter: no, the trump campaign has not responded to that. they have been using that and saying that just came out and hillary clinton is going to be criminally indicted and they use this fox news reporting but they have not commented since brett bearer have backed off of it. yesterday, he said this was artful terminology. today he s apologizing that it is not just artful but inaccurate. kristen what about how is team clinton responded of a false story? reporter: no reaction to that. you remember in the wake of comey coming forward and announcing that he s looking into newly discovered e-mails, clinton campaign turning the pressure on comey, hey, if you are going to do this, release all the information. we saw that from her top surrogate. clinton is not talking about this issue anymore. she s trying to turn the page. you will hear some of her top circuit taking this on. it is friday, the e-mail from comey came out on friday, the access hollywood came out on a friday that hurt donald trump. what will happen this friday? anybody s guess. katy, and kristen and mark and jacob, everybody thank you very much, appreciate it. i want to follow on this case of chris christie. bill baroni, chris christie will be campaigning for trump. he released this statement that reads in part. let me be clear, once again, i had no knowledge prior to or during these lane realignments and had no roles of authorizing them and anything said to the contrary over the past six weeks in court is simply untrue. i want to bring in our legal correnspo correnspondent, ari melber. well, we have been following two cases and this is a jury to your question decided that there were something rotten there that this is what this administration did and convicted to christie s aids. that s not good. nine counts and of wired fraud. the problem with chris christie is how that looks and if he had former aids singling him out. the good news for chris christie is that this case is finally over. he was not ever charged to be fair and clear and thus in that sense, the legal chapter appears closed. all right, i have halie touched on this at the end of last hour of the rolling stone verdict and the fact that there is three people, defendants in the defamation trial and how this has moved forward. this is a story that ran rolling stone, alleging a rather graphic gang-rape at a fraternity on campus. the administrator from the school sued and said not only your story was false but you defamed me along with others in doing it so recklessly. people often say i am going to sue, i will sue for defamation and you lied about me. very rarely those cases go to court and when they do, rarely you will get these major guilty verdict. with this jury found just in the last hour, no, there was recklessness and there were actual malice, these people did not just do their jobs poorly, they did their job incredibly recklessly, they did not get the basic fact-checking and the basic stories that a reporter is supposed to do. we are not talking about jail, we are talking about money damages up to $7 million. that chapter would come later. this is a huge blow to rolling stone which i should mention and people probably know at home has published a great number of issues and music and cultures and rights over the years. this story is a blemish for that. did rudy giuliani knows about last friday s, of october s surprise two days before the story broke. i mean i am talking about some pretty big surprise. yeah, i heard you said that this morning. what did you mean? you will see. you are lucky because we got to go. i am out of town. we are not going to go down. we are not going to stop fighting. we got a couple of things off our sleeves that should turn us around. why agents reportedly are against hillary clinton and what these new claims could mean for the race going forward. first, a reminder our coverage begins tomorrow eastern with a live one hour show hosted by your own joanne reid and tuesday tuned in on our msnbc election beginning at 9:00 a.m. eastern. . 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it was extremely difficult. people were reluctant to criticize an agency that they feel they are personally attached to. has comey put himself in an in possible position? he s extremely in a difficult position. some point presuming that she s elected president. comey is going to have to find some way of working with with her and that may under mind the relationship between the white house and the fbi. we played this earlier of rudy giuliani raising eye brows of what he said last week about this and what he said today. you are going to hear about it the next few days. i am talking about some pretty big surprise. oh yeah, i heard you said that this morning, what did you mean? we ll see. we got a couple of things up our sleeves that should turn this around. a couple of days before this broke and you looked and you said look out, something is coming down and certainly it did. what did you know and a lot of network pointed that out. i am not part of it at all. all i heard was former fbi agents telling me that there is a revolution going on inside the fbi and now is at a boiling point. so there are people in the fbi leaking information into trump s team. that s what it sounds like. rudy giuliani , he had a history of playing politics. i am a native new yorker. it is going to be difficult to manage and put rank and file fbi agents trying to do their job with integrity in a difficult situation. spencer, great work. national security for the guardian. today our pulse question, reports say the u.s. government is concerned hackers from russian may try to under mine the election, are you worried your vote may be compromised? 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this is the strangest election cycle of our history and voters just kind of reacting to it. it is interesting though and i know peter knows this more than i do. i think that s important to keep in mind that we are fighting over four or faive states. really, it has not moved since labor day. this does come down to which one of these campaigns going to grind it out in four or five states. peter, are we going to see a total redefined and folks like yourself are going to look at this and wonder of 2016, we just got this new free press michigan polls. this was done on the first and the third, the four point margin of error, that s a tie. the fracture is within the blue wall and the blue fortress and how this can all flip and redefine for 2016. you look ahead and it is changing and donald trump made it change. he reached out the voters. he lost the expanding l electorate. the news that you bring out of the michigan poll is the best news that hillary clinton s campaign will hear today. and it will be maybe hopeful? the day is still young and we have seen a lot of friday s surprises. our strategists and our peter hart and steven shales. thank you gentlemen. the security that its plan to protect election day. says it won t let up for a while. the cadillac xt5. what should we do? .tailored to you. wait it out. equipped with apple carplay compatibility. now during season s best, get this low mileage lease on this cadillac xt5 from around $429 per month, or purchase with 0% apr financing. i am totally blind. i lost my sight in afghanistan. if you re totally blind, you may also be struggling with non-24. calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. they re planning unprecedented security on this year s election. cynthia mcfadden. officials in the department of the homeland security, military and the intelligence community tell nbc news the u.s. government is gearing up for an unprecedented effort to protect the country on election day. according to multiple intelligence sources, u.s. officials are deeply concerned about and preparing f some sort of cyber chaos next week. an attack on critical infrastructure including the u.s. power grid is one of three worse case concerned. so we have cynthia mcfadden, we should point out that there is no reus thomas hock the integrity of the vote itself. joining me is our executive director and an author of defeating isis. malcolm, thank you for joining us. how probable is this? well, it is a question of who s the actor that would want to do that or paralyze the united states. i have another book called the plot to hack america. that was oriented to russian te intelligence. they can do that and slow down the united states. the fundamental vote will not be corrupted. that s calculated on a white board there is this chaos and the noise that goes around it and gets people undone. what does the cyber community and cyber security expert is being enhanced to make sure that this is plausible. v verified russian intelligence and their version of nsa and the department of homeland security and the director of national e intelligence, all came together. almost all states and i believe 45 was the number of states have consulted with dhs which means national security agency is assisting as well and they are making secure that the computer switch actually tabulate the vote. the plot to do all of this. what security expert has to do to stay ahead of what could happen. that s what it is all about sfooch, we got to stay ahead of those of what cause the kay yochaos. we had this noise on the campaign trail saying that the russians may have something to do with it. you have to first believe that the enemy is out there and they re going to carry out some sort of a ferry s blood. if you don t believe that the russians have done this then you cannot make the offenses against the cyber weapon systems that they employ. that s what the states are doing now. they believe that russia and other actors can come in and interfere with the electorate. to handle it or shut off if they are attack. that s the big game. malcolm stance, thank you. i want to give you an update of the pulse. are you worried that your vote maybe compromised? even though it cannot happen but fears are real. 60% say yes and 40% say no, check out www.pulse.msnbc.com. tonight, who ll take the stage in cleveland to rock the boat for hillary clinton. the man on your left, jay z, will be there. what about beyonce? say no that it is not going to be beyonce. stranger things have happened before. one person cons to rally voters for clinton is her former boss, president obama in the final stretch before election day. i was working in the yard, my chest started hurting on very specific therapy. our individualized care model gives each lung patient specific treatment options with innovative procedures that are changing the way we fight lung cancer. we have excellent technology that will allows us to perform very specialized procedures for patients who have lung disease. to learn more about these targeted therapies and advanced procedures for lung cancer, as well as the experienced physicians who deliver them, go to cancercenter.com when he showed me the cat scans, i was so amazed. with this treatment, she had a dramatic response. call or go to cancercenter.com. cancer treatment centers of america. care that never quits. appointments available now. that he s almost done for his former secretary clinton this time in fayetteville, in north carolina. the clint the enthusiasm people have for president obama. here is the president in one of his two stops for clinton on thursday. if you are registered, you can vote right now. [ cheers ] there is early voting location just ten minutes away. our ron allen is in fayettevil fayetteville, the president is giving a lot of attention in north carolina. is he trying to do what can do for clinton what he could not do for himself. reporter: exactly, he lost in 2012 but he won in 2008. every vote counts. that s what the president have been saying there is numerous stops here. he s going to be back in north carolina, durham, on monday. debra ross is up, warming up the crowd. the president should be here in a moment. some of the people here have been waiting since 5:00 a.m. this morning outside in the rain for the president to get here. that s how popular he is here. you are right, at this point, the early voting figure, the african-american turn out is lower and the enthusiasm gap is that plclip that you just played, president obama gave the address of the early voting place. that s how intense it is and where they need to be. the other issue here is intense voting rights battle, there are thousands of people waiting for a federal judge s decision. 70,000 people have been purged. they want to vote on tuesday and they re waiting to get that right. that s the issue here. we ll see the president coming out there shortly. just a programming note for you. we ll have a one on one sit down interview with the president tonight. that ll air in with chris hayes on msnbc. blacks are indeed fired up. it is read wrong even if there is a slight difference between the early vote then and the early vote now. don t let that fool you. blacks are going to turn out on election day in north carolina. i can absolutely convince you, i hope i can of what i know and understand about the black community. not only the black community respect hillary clinton but believe in hillary clinton but they got a second incentive and that s we cannot tolerate donald trump. he s dangerous and we know that we got to stop him, we know that this country cannot be led by him. he s demonstrated who he is. and not only is he dangerous he has burglarized this campaign in the way that he has not only limited himself to a certain constituent. mariana had a chance to speak with running mate tim kaine about what perceived to be this slow start. take a look. well, it certainly started slow and a lot of states have done things since 2012 to make it harder to vote. we are worried about that. we are also seeing while the participation at some areas started a little slow, it is picking up. when we heard ronald talking about what s going on in north carolina with voting rights and a decision that s coming down. do you think in a larger scalp picture that the clinton s campaign have taken the black votes some what for grant it or is that a myth? that he is are remarks on the other side who s trying to convince black that they should not be so supportive. that kind of generalization does not play well with most blacks who understand the difference. democrats and republicans and certainly donald trump and hillary clinton. i would not pay any attention to that. the fact that the matter is, if blacks go to the polls, if there are any attempts from keep them voting. they ll get the ballot that ll allow them to vote so that decisions can be made on them later. i am not worried about that at all. what i feel in my heart is that blacks are goi to vote and they re going to vote in large numbers and they re going to get out in the polls and hillary clinton is going to win this election. all right, congresswoman, i want to get you on the record with this. the leak of the fbi, it under mind the clinton s candidacy. i think the disappointment in the fbi director is profound. i think that he made a mistake that he interfered with this election and he caused us to have a little bit of a pause and a little bit of a drop off that we have not recuperated from that. the leaks that have gone out and division appears to be in the fbi is unprecedented. nobody expected that you would have false information coming out of the fbi. rudy giuliani needs to be investigated also because he had a role in this. congresswoman, maxine waters, thanks for your time. you are so welcome. could she turn the tie in georgia? our new polls is showing the dead heat, our chris jansing is talking to the people at the polls, next. on this side of the road is virginia. and on this side it s tennessee. no matter which state in the country you live in, you could save hundreds on car insurance by switching to geico. look, i m in virginia. i m in tennessee. virginia. tennessee. and now i m in virginessee. see how much you could save on car insurance. or am i in tennaginia? hmmm. 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it s very last minute. it appears to be them jumping back in in a very big way. it s interesting, we ve got details on that ahead. we ve also got tremendously good names tonight concerning the obama family. it s news that is slightly more personal than it is political, but that s ahead tonight as well. so there s lots lots coming up, including for once some news that is more good than bad, which is always nice. but we re going to start tonight with some new tape that has never been heard publicly before. it s never been broadcast before. we re going to break this here live tonight with you. and i have to tell you, you ll be surprised to hear this, but this new tape that has never been broadcast before, it is tape from the greatest baseball player in new york. i was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. do you recognize that voice? that s a remarkable thing to have learned today from this brand new tape that s never been broadcast before. it s donald trump speaking. he says when i was young, so we re thinking we re talking about maybe he was 17 or 16 years old, when he was 16 years old, that was 1962. that s when the yankees went to the world series, they won the world series. it was like mickey mantle, roger maris. even if you don t know anything about baseball, you know mickey mantle. but it turns out none of them were the best baseball player in new york that year. no, it was this other guy. i was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. this is the best tape we ve gotten our hands on in a very long time. this is incredible. all right. this is from 2014. there is a pulitzer prize-winning reporter named michael dantonio. in preparing the book he did hours and hours of interviews with donald trump, just raw footage of them talking. some of those tapes have been obtained by the new york times. the the new york times has been doing a little bit of reporting on them recently but they have not published this audio we are about to play. i don t totally want to spoil it here, but arm chair psychologists, start your engines. this is incredible. i went to military academy, new york military academy for five years, from the year before freshman. so eighth grade on? yes. whose idea was this? well, i was very rebellious and my parents thought it would be a good idea. i was very rebellious. i loved to fight. i always love to fight. physical fights. all kinds of fights. physical. arguments? all types of fights. any kind of fight i loved it, including physical. and i was always the best athlete, something that nobody knew about me. but one guy you should speak to before it s too late, because he s a pretty old guy now, is major dobias. so when dobias was a drill sergeant in the army, and these guys were rough. this guy was so rough. in those days, they d smack the hell out of you. it s not like today where you smack somebody and you end up going to jail for the rest of your life. so i went up there, i ll never forget. eighth grade? and i m standing there at military academy. this guy comes up and he s like a bulldog too, rough guy. he was a drill sergeant. now they call him major dobias. but when i first knew him he was sergeant dobisa right right army. he was physically rough and mentally rough. he was also my baseball coach. and he said things like stand up, and i went give me a [ bleep ] break. and this guy came at me. you would never believe it. it was really fantastic. did he rough you up? oh, yeah, absolutely. grabbed you by the shirt? well, it doesn t matter, but it was not like what happens today. and you had to learn to survive. it was tough. it wasn t today. those were rougher times. that was before vietnam and these were guys that didn t take [ bleep ]. you must call him, before it s too late. ask him about how was trump as an athlete? because he said he coached for many, many it was like 35 years. he said donald trump was the best athlete i ve ever coached. donald trump was the best baseball player i ve ever coached. you know, just something to when did you know that you were good? i always knew i was good. i was always a good athlete. i was always the best athlete. like in first grade if the kids the a game from before the first grade. i was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. now, in those days, you know, you couldn t play baseball because there was no real you know, it wasn t a thing. plus my father was in the real estate business, which i didn t want to go into. i wanted to go into theater. i wanted to go into sports. but i also know that was very limited because in those days you couldn t even make any money being a great baseball player. didn t the dodgers train at west point a couple times, in the spring? everybody wanted me to be a baseball player. right. but i was a good at other things too. i was good at wrestling. i was really good at football. i was a good i was always good at sports. i was always like the best at sports. always the best. at all sports. my favorite part of that, i love the explanation for why, you know, nobody knows even now that he was the greatest baseball player in new york. he says when i was young, i was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. now he says but, you know, in those days, baseball wasn t really a thing. i was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. now in those days you couldn t play baseball because there was no real, you know, it wasn t a thing. he says in those days you couldn t even make any money being a baseball player. again, the time he s talking about here is when he was in high school, like 1962, 1963. yankees going to the world series. some of the best remembered games of all time. baseball, unequivocally the national pastime. mickey mantle a national hero. but donald trump didn t want to bother showing up all of those lesser baseball players because baseball wasn t really a thing then. we didn t really have leather covered balls, we just had rocks that we hid into the cave art. baseball wasn t a thing then? that s why you weren t? everybody wanted him to play but there wasn t really a baseball organization. donald trump believes, not hyperbolically, not jokingly, but apparently in all seriousness that he was the greatest baseball player in new york when he was a young man. he was the best at that. he was the best at all of sports. and why, mr. trump, were you the best? i think you have a natural ability at things. i m a big believer in nature. no, not nature. i m a big believer in natural ability. i believe in being prepared and all that stuff. but in many respects, the most important thing is an innate ability. and you knew this as a kid? no, i never thought of it as a kid. do you think you had it even then? always. when you look back at yourself i had it. i always had it. i always had it. i never had to work. other people have to prepare and do stuff, but i just came down from heaven, for example, as the greatest baseball player in new york. were you a good hitter? the best. i was the best hitter. it gives you some insight, right? i mean if that is how this presidential candidate thinks of himself and has always thought of himself going back to first grade no, no, no, before first grade, i mean if you understand that that is how he thinks of himself, then it is not a surprise when he, like, for example, today on the campaign trail tells a crowd of supporters in ohio that basically he is sick of this election. he is sick of all this working to earn this presidency thing. he s sick of it. just give it to me already. what a difference. you know, what a difference this is. and just thinking to myself right now, we should just cancel the election and just give it to trump, right? why are we having it for? just give it to trump. what are we having it for? what are you having this election for? i know. if you think of yourself as a person who has never actually had to work for anything because you were born innately great, you were bornin ately as the great is athlete, if you were excellent at everything you ever tried because you were born basically perfect, then why should you have to compete for something. i deserve it by virtue of me being me. so it offers an insight. this tape from the trump biographer which provided it to the new york times, i think this is newsworthy tape, and i think it is helpful to understanding how donald trump is running for president now, because he on tape here talks in this very unguarded way about how he sees himself and that is a rare thing we don t ever get from any candidate, let alone from him. but there is another piece of this tape that has never been heard publicly before, which we have got for you in just a second. and this other piece of tape, i think this is just like a dart into the heart of today s news. and it s on a subject that has only come up a little bit in the campaign so far. it came up for an instant earlier in this campaign when donald trump named mike pence to be his running mate. one of the controversial things in mike pence s record is that he is on record being against women in the military. from the very beginning of him running for congress, mike pence was against not just women in combat, but even women being in combat support units. he was even against women being allowed to do basic training for the military. mike pence wrote this creepy column in 1999 about young nubile 18-year-old women in basic training. the column ends with this line, i kid you not. women in the military, bad idea. that s the bottom line of his column on women in the military. so that s on record already from mike pence, donald trump s running mate, when pence was a talk radio host. that was the time he lost running for congress. that run most remembered for mike pence using campaign contributions to pay for his mortgage, his grocery bills, his car payment and his golfing fees. he let his donors pay for all that stuff. if mike pence were running in any normal republican, i think he would have been a scandal as a running mate. things in his record would have been a scandal and a problem to his running mate. it is testament to donald trump that he is so controversial that picking mike pence with mike pence s record, it hasn t given donald trump a single day of heartburn in the entire campaign. i mean if in this campaign anybody could pay attention to mike pence for more than ten seconds without passing out for lack of oxygen, this thing from him about women in the military, bad idea, that would be a scandal, right? that would be a problem for a campaign. maybe it will be still some day. for a long time i felt like this issue has been a lurking liability for trump and pence, just sort of waiting at some point to cause them trouble. well, now that trouble may finally be coming to pass, because now with this new tape that we are about to broadcast for the first time ever, this has never been heard publicly any time before, this is the first time anywhere, here is donald trump not 16 years ago or 18 years ago when mike pence was talking about this stuff, here s donald trump two years ago in 2014, unprompted, answering a totally unrelated question. just deciding to bring up voluntarily his donald trump opinion on women in the military. when you were young, what did you think of the 60s counterculture, the hippies, the music? you didn t do any of that stuff. no, i wasn t into it. it wasn t that i wasn t into it. what did you think? well, i went i went to a military academy, which was from a different planet. we didn t have that. and we didn t have women in the academy at that time. today you have women, which is a whole other story, you know, women in the army, and you see what s going on. it s like bedlam. it is bedlam. it s something that people aren t talking about, but what s going on is bedlam, bringing women in the army. bringing women in the army, women in the military, it s bedlam. and his running mate says women in the military, bad idea. ask military families how they feel about that in a potential commander in chief. ask women in the military how they feel about that in a potential commander in chief. ask women in general how they feel about that. bringing women into the army, bedlam. it s something people aren t talking about, but what s going on is bedlam. bringing women in the army, it s bedlam. women in the military, bad idea. the two of them are in line on that question. it is, therefore, a reasonable question to ask if trump and pence do get elected, will they kick all women out of the military? they re both on record saying it is a terrible thing that women are in the military. it s a terrible thing, it s even a disgusting thing. we ought to go back to only men serving in the military. is that what we should do? this one has been lurking just under the surface for them for quite a while, but now we ve got it on tape. i would love to hear an answer for this. okay. live here next we ll have the latest on what just happened at new york s laguardia airport where indiana governor mike pence s plane has skidded off the runway and the airport has been shut down. thankfully nobody was hurt in this incident, but we are getting in some crazy images of the actual runway. can you guys see those images there? look at the tarmac. this is what this hard landing, this skidding off the runway, look what it did to the actual tarmac, to the actual concrete. again, this was a hard landing tonight, last hour involving the republican nominee for vice president and his campaign jet. we ll talk with someone who was on that flight when it went off the runway. somebody who says interestingly this is not the first time mike pence s plane has had a really bad landing, which is an interesting thing. why s that? that s next. members of the press were on that plane. we also think we saw a congressman from texas. we heard that a 737 usually comes in for a landing at 155 miles an hour and when it s a wet, slick night like tonight, this kind of thing can happen. but the faa and maybe the ntsb will be looking into this incident to determine exactly what caused it here. i ll show you again, this is what the plane did to the tarmac at laguardia as it slid off the runway. i didn t know that that happened when you slid off a runway. all the air traffic at laguardia was suspended for over an hour in the wake of this incident. we are told as soon as the plane came to a rest following its rough landing and its slide into the grass with mud flying up and hitting the windows, governor pence immediately came to the back of the plane to check that everybody was okay. god bless him, that s the right thing to do. as you can see he s fine. he also stopped with photos with first responders in the rain. he had been scheduled to attend a fund-raiser in new york city tonight but his spokesman said instead he is headed to his hotel for the night, absolutely totally understandable. about an hour after the incident the governor tweeted so thankful everyone on our plane is safe. grateful for our first responders and the concern and prayers of so many. back on the trail tomorrow. again, the most important thing here is no injuries as far as we know. but certainly some jangled nerves and some rushes of adrenaline and none of us need any of that at this time. joining us now is a man onboard that plane, vaughn hillyard. he was on the plane when it slid off the runway. vaughn, let me shake your hand. i m glad you re okay. were you scared? no. the crazy part is this wasn t the first time first time we ve gone off the runway, but we ve had a lot of shaky incidents in the past. hard impact, tough landings. we actually pulled out the phone this time and i snapped originally about ten seconds of video, which i m trying to get into the system here eventually for everybody, but the crazy part was originally we had the hard impact and then we went two or three seconds and that s with we started to swerve off to the right. and then all of a sudden we come to just a hard crashing stop. and that s when you looked out the window and you can see that the road was oddly close to where the plane was at. the road with cars on it. the road with cars. the circle k across the street. that s when it became real. so when you say you were trying to get tape, you were filming as you were landing. is that because you were expecting a hard landing because you ve had so many? it s a joke. it s a joke how long are we going to last. that s the part the fact that i m on with you tonight is sort of the interesting end of this. this camera, we ve captured a lot of crazy things in this campaign, but to get to the point where this is the news of the night was wait a second. you re saying it s become a joke how long are we going to last. you re saying that the hard landings on the pence campaign plane specifically are so frequent and so notable that it s a point of discussion among the press corps? yes. and i ll be honest that i ve never pursued that. we haven t pursued asking questions further about that because usually we don t fly on private, i guess, charter flights on campaign. this is my first campaign covering so we just took it for granted. have you only had bad landings in heavy weather? no. we landed in ft. dodge, iowa, earlier and we had another rough landing where we hit. it felt like we went back into the air. you could see the blue sky again. of course we didn t go off the runway at that point. i m just going to put this to you. i ve got a i went back and looked at my earlier coverage about something involving the mike pence campaign. i am sure this is just coincidental, but this is not the first time that we on this show have talked about issues involving mike pence s campaign plane. and i ve never been on that campaign plane so it s not like i was reporting a personal experience. it was late last month we learned that the pilot, who is entrusted with the trump campaign with flying the pence campaign and his press corps and his family around the country, he made news because he was fired for an unusual reason. the guardian was first to report that the pilot for the pence plane until one month ago was a retired police officer in addition to being pence s pilot. he was the chairman of donald trump s florida law enforcement coalition. and the guardian reported that he was actively facing criminal charges of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. in 2015 he had allegedly driven over a co-worker with his car three times on purpose, causing the co-worker severe physical injuries. his name is vincent caldera. he pled not guilty to those charges but it turned out those weren t the only charges against him. he was accused of a similar incident in 2014. in that case he was accused of driving into a woman with his motorcycle on purpose and seriously injuring her. the guardian reported last month he hadn t actually been formally charged in relation to that episode because they hadn t been able to locate him to serve him with legal papers. meanwhile he s flying the vice presidential candidate around the country. so that s the pilot who got fired from the pence campaign plane last month. do you know who they replaced him with? i do not know who the gentleman is. they switch people out. so it s rotating? so it s a rotating basis, yeah. how old are you? 25. have you done a lot of flying in your reporting job and in your personal life? yes. is the pence campaign plane the only campaign plane on which you have had hard landings like this? that s accurate. that s really weird. john hillyard. i don t know what the relationship is between these two halves of this story, but knowing that this runway thing happened tonight after a series of hard landings that was a topic of discussion by you guys, it weirds me out and we will try to get to the bottom of it. and i m glad that you re okay. thanks. appreciate it. nbc news embed vaughn hillyard. he s great. important step forward. the time is long overdue. pharmaceutical industry. passes - the ballot. his democratic opponent, congressman patrick murphy, is somewhere between two points down and tied with rubio in recent polls. murphy, the democrat, has the endorsement of all four of florida s largest newspapers, including the big ones that endorsed marco rubio before this election. and perhaps most importantly, hillary clinton is doing great in florida. and the democrats have a huge ground operation in florida. this is a senate race that the democrats could win. why are they pulling out? on monday s show, i put this mystery to steve shale, a veteran democratic operative in florida. and he couldn t explain it either. he told us here, quote, i think the momentum has definitely headed murphy s way and i don t understand the democrats decision. well, tonight the democratic party has apparently decided that they also do not understand their decision. at least some democrats have decided that. a spokesman for the biggest super pac supporting senate democrats this year, one of the super pacs that previously pulled millions of dollars in florida ad buys earlier this month, that super pac says tonight that they have changed their minds about marco rubio versus patrick murphy. they have changed their minds about pulling out. they have now decided that they re going to make a, quote, seven-figure transfer into that florida senate race to try to help out patrick murphy in his effort to oust marco rubio from his senate seat. of course it s very late, right? a lot of people in florida have already voted. more than two million people have already voted in florida. but if i were patrick murphy s campaign manager and i had a choice between getting outside help late or getting outside help never, i d pick late. i d pick late. seriously, is there anyone more inspiring than michelle obama? and maybe, maybe it s especially meaningful to me because i do know something about first lady of the united states. today first lady hillary clinton former first lady hillary clinton and current first lady michelle obama shared the stage at a campaign event in north carolina. this was their first appearance together. an important one for hillary clinton because north carolina s really, really important this year. and michelle obama is one of the most beloved figures in all of american politics. but there was one piece of business basically that transacted between hillary clinton and michelle obama today at this event. i think it got largely overlooked among all the badly needed good vibes at this event. but what happened between them today, an announcement made by them today that was a surprise announcement is something that i think is important and fascinating and we ve got it coming up straight ahead right at the end of the show tonight. it s good news and we ve pegged it right at the end of the show. stay tuned for that. coordination and the extent of that coordination is something that is now materially important to the breaking news that we reported here last night after the democratic party last night filed papers in federal court in new jersey asking that court to hold the republican party in violation of an ancient consent decree that dates back to the 1980s. it dates back to an election in which the national republican party sent basically vigilante poll watchers into minority precincts in 1981. many of them wore guns, they wore these ballot security task force arm bands and they patrolled voting sites in dozens of precincts that had mostly minority voters. and the republicans did very, very, very narrowly win that governor s race in new jersey that year. but the democratic party sued over this ballot security task force thing. and the democrats won that case. and the republicans signed on to a consent decree because of it. and now, 35 years later, the republican party is still trying to get out from under the legal restrictions that were put on them because of that case. and in the midst of that, here s what donald trump has been saying out on the campaign trail. we have a lot of law enforcement people working that day. we re hiring a lot of people. we re putting a lot of law enforcement. we have some great people here, some great leaders here of the republican party, and they re very concerned about that. and that s the way we could lose the state. so important that you watch other communities, because we don t want this election stolen from us. when i say watch, you know what i m talking about, right? you know what i m talking about. you know what i m talking about. we re going to have law enforcement doing this. we don t want this election stolen from us. we have some great leaders of the republican party. donald trump is not under a consent decree that dates back to the 1980s on this subject. the rnc is under a consent decree that dates back to the 1980s on this subject. i mean technically donald trump himself can go out and talk about all of this stuff, but the rnc under this consent decree, they can t take part in any of it. it has to be crystal clear that there s no working together here between the trump campaign and the rnc on issues of ballot integrity and poll watching on election day, particularly when those efforts target minority districts. if there is coordination, that may be a problem. the democratic party now argues that would be a violation of that consent decree. i finally pulled aside kellyanne conway and said what is the campaign going to do. is this the central strategy to contest the election. she said she s actively working with the republican national committee, the official party and campaign lawyers to monitor precincts around the country. so this isn t just an outside campaign and outside candidate. he s tying himself to the republican party with him. it s a tremendous question and i will tell you that the trump campaign and the republican national committee are working very, very closely with state governments and secretary of state of states all over the country to ensure ballot integrity. working very, very, very, closely. i should say you just saw robert costa reporting what he had heard from kellyanne conway saying that the trump campaign is actively working with the rnc to monitor precincts around the country. after kellyanne conway told robert costa that and he reported it here on msnbc, kellyanne conway walked that statement back and the rnc is aggressively denying this coordination. but how about mike pence saying, right, that this ballot integrity is a tremendous question this year and the rnc, the republican national committee, is working very, very closely with the trump campaign to ensure ballot integrity. how about that? he didn t walk that back. part of the dnc filing from last night alleges that the republican party and the trump campaign are sharing staff, they re sharing resources, they re coordinating these things. there s so much coordination that there are no lines delineating where one starts and another ends. the rnc, according to this complaint, quote, commingled its staff and resources with the trump campaign and so it is impossible to separate the two. that s what the democratic party is alleging. arguably, that s what they re asking the court to determine. that s the crux of this whole thing. when the trump campaign promises it s going to do this in these cities, as trump says, inner cities in swing states, is he talking about doing that alone or is the rnc involved? let me leave you with one more thing that seems relevant here. this is the head of the rnc, reince priebus, speaking on sunday. i don t mean his response to the debate, just in general when he goes out and says the election is rigged, he said it last night. i think he s trying to also tell his folks to watch out for this fraud that might occur. he s trying to tell his folks to watch out for this fraud that might occur, says the head of the rnc. on one hand reince priebus is decoding donald trump there on cbs this weekend. on the other hand, i want to know about the rnc and this threat to rig the election and this fraud that might occur and whether the rnc is working on this. tell me more, mr. head of the republican party. oh, you re not here. let s instead ask ben ginsburg, former general counsel and an msnbc analyst. i am not asking you to be reince priebus or to defend reince priebus. i appreciate that. but i do want you to give me your view on what s going on right now with this complaint. you re the man who said that you could basically guarantee that the democrats were going to make this court filing once you saw what the trump campaign was talking about on the campaign trail. yeah, and what i added to that and what i sort of said directly later in the evening was that in fact that activity was not taking place because well, i don t want the rnc, but i do know that the rnc takes the consent decree very seriously. what you have is some bad rhetoric, but not the actions. so the whole consent decree itself and the sort of muscling up in polling places has been a black mark on the republican party. that has harmed it not only reputationally, which is why the democrats or pursuing this consent decree, but also really politically. and so all in all, this is a moment that the republican national committee wants to get beyond so that it can engage with its state parties in the permissible looking at the elections. an important component of being sure that the voters understand that the election is fair and is not rigged and the practices in the polling places are being conducted correctly. that s part of this that i ve been trying to get a handle on. i m glad to hear you explain it that way, because on the one hand what the republican party got nailed for in the 80s was comic book egregious, but i haven t really understood what i m assuming the republican party doesn t want to do the arm bands and off-duty guns, i m assuming, although we could no, we won t make that argument. let s assume that the republican party doesn t. what does the republican party want to do that s not racist, that s not egregious, that s not suppressive, that they re prohibited from doing by this consent decree? why do they feel so constrained? every state, every state allows representatives of the political parties or campaigns or a combination of the two to observe what goes on in the polling place. that is a matter of being able to ensure the fairness of elections. as a national party committee, it would be helpful for the republican national committee to participate in those permissible, lawful activities just as the democratic national committee does now. and the dnc can do that now and the rnc because of that consent decree, they can t. correct. so when you say that the rnc is not doing anything that might violate that consent decree, they re not doing any of this poll watching stuff, they re not working on it, they can t be they can give advice to the so what about mike pence saying we re working very closely with the rnc on ballot integrity issues and making sure this isn t stolen. i can t speak for him. i do know he made that statement in august and we re now in october and none of those activities of the republican national committee personnel working in the polling place, activities has taken place as far as i know or as far as the democrats could say. what about the rnc staff working basically in-house at the trump campaign now. you know, rnc like sean spicer has been working basically in-house with the trump campaign. if one of the things the trump campaign is doing is getting people to sign up to go be poll watchers, does that mean that the rnc with having their staff inside the trump campaign, that they re in effect participating in it? no, because i think the way they re working it is that you ve got a sort of a unit, the field people, trying to get people in place to be able to observe as they re allowed to under state laws. i think the rnc personnel have at least been given instructions to not participate in those activities. gives this so much heat and energy, we have already heard that they ve asked, the judge has asked for this to move really fast. they ve asked for the parties to be in court on wednesday morning. there s a long tradition of being in the federal district court nowhere close to the elections. thank you. stay with us. we ll be right back. [cheers and applause] and maybe, maybe it s especially meaningful to me, because i do know something about being first lady of the united states. she has been first lady of arkansas, first lady of the united states, secretary of state. she has [ crowd chanting hillary ] yeah. that s right. hillary doesn t play. hillary doesn t play. that was hillary clinton and michelle obama today in winston-salem, north carolina. this is the first time they have done a joint campaign appearance. and, as that was kind of, we played that bit there to give you a sense of the vibe there. i think basically taking turns heaping praise on one another, and this event was one of hillary clinton s biggest events of the entire campaign. there were apparently 14,000 people there at this north carolina rally today. and this was a good one to choose to be a big one, because michelle obama was there. one of the most beloved figures in politics right now. one of the most popular figures in politics, certainly among democrats, particularly among african-american democrats, and a absolutely key constituency. this may have been one of hillary clinton s most important appearances today. and it was warm. and hillary clinton was at her best, and it was probably one of the most effective things she has done. but. what might be most important here is we got an answer to a question that has been floating around the obama family s pending departure from the white house. now this has not been covered widely today. maybe everybody else doesn t see this as the biggest deal of the world. i realize that the fate of the free world does not rely on this question. but, you know, it s a stressful time. in this most stressful of elections, we here at the show and we in my family have been chewing on our fingernails a little bit, wondering with a little bit of actual stress what s going to happen to the white house vegetable garden. what is going to happen to it? the kitchen garden planted by first lady michelle obama. this has been a passion of her time in the white house, for almost the entire time she s been there, she s been building it up, maintaining it and showing it off. recently, expanding it. and different presidents and their families do different things to the white house, there are no guarantees that the next occupants will keep anything that the last occupants of the white house did to the grounds. the new president would be absolutely free to plow the vegetable garden under, if they like, right? jimmy carter, you want to put solar panels on the white house, ronald reagan wants to take them down. really expect melania trump or bill clinton to be out there tending to the turnips and harvesting the okra? really? are they going to keep it? as her time grows short, michelle obama has hardened the garden s defenses. she unveiled an expanded garden now twice its original size and it s got hard parts. stone walkways and planters made from concrete and steel and picnic tables and stuff. first lady michelle obama announced a multi-million dollar grant for maintaining it. so it won t be an excuse if they wanted to get rid of the garden for that reason. not incidentally, michelle obama planted a couple of crops that are in the ground now that won t be ready for harvest until the spring, when there s a new president. what are you going to do? waste that food? so it s been a discussion. will the next president keep the garden or put up a parking lot? today we got an answer. at least if hillary clinton wins. now she also planted an amazing vegetable garden at the white house. [cheers and applause] and i can promise you, if i win, i will take good care of it, michelle. [cheers and applause] if hillary clinton wins the election, the garden lives! look how happy that makes michelle obama. i don t really totally understand why i m so attached to this vegetable garden, beyond the obvious reasons that i am a card-carrying member of the
alt-right movement within which anti-semitism and racist troeps are pervasive. bannon s appointment drawing sharp condemnation. the spokesman for harry reid saying quote it is easy to see why the kkk views trump as their champ when trump appoints one of the foremost peddlers of white supremacist themes and rhetoric as his top aide. the ceo of the anti-defamation league calling it a quote, sad day. the executive director of the council on american islamic relations says the appointment of bannon sends the disturbing message that the anti-muslim conspiracy theories and white nationalist ideology will be welcome in the white house. as thousands across the country protest against trump for the fifth straight day, trump addressing his supporters who have harassed minorities in his first tv interview. post-election. i say stop it. allen silly is a former communications director for ted cruz and hilary rosen is a cnn political commentator. brian stelter is the cnn senior media correspondent. welcome to all of you. good morning. so, brian, i want to start with you. and i want to get in to who steve bannon is, and why so many minority rights organizations have a problem with him. because he is a bomb thrower. provocateur. a man that is a symbol of the alt-right movement. and the alt-right movement means many things one of the things it means is a white identity politics. white nationalism. that s why we heard some people say this is white supremacy is a disguise. now steve bannon rejects that entirely. says he has nothing to do with that. he told me months ago this is all about populism sweeping the globe. but the bottom line, carol, is that reince priebus on the morning shows today said donald trump will be a president for all of americans. that s not who steve bannon is. that s not what breitbart is. breitbart is not a website for all americans. it s a website for the alt-right. so we re getting two messages, for steve bannon and the campaign moving forward. i do think, being an outsider is one thing. promoting white nationalist policies is quite another. if you go to the breitbart headlines of the past, steve bannon was editor, right, of breitbart and i m just going to read one, he said head line there not too long ago dear straight people i m officially giving you permission to say gay f-a-g-g-o-t and we re. i mean look at these headlines in breitbart. hillary, is there a difference between an outsider and a white nationalist provocateur? like i think so many people there s a huge difference, and that i think hilary. there s a huge difference, and you know, as brian said this breitbart news has fomented division and anger, and fear in people, and you know, i hate to see, frankly, what power they could have when they have the full resources and secrets of the federal government to attack people with. and the idea that steve bannon will be conspiring with, you know, right wing media, to send messages out, and kind of appalling to me. but this is really about two donald trumps. and donald trump not having an ideology. people are used to our president actually caring about something. and what we have here is, you know, steve bannon s appointment being focused on fomenting the kind of outsider, white nationalist movement and reince priebus making sure that, you know, the banks get their lobbying deals, and that climate change is repealed, and that, you know, essentially the government is handed back to big corporations, and fat cats. and so you have kind of the combination of these two things, and the little guy that donald trump says he got elected for, in my view, ends up getting screwed because those people are not going to protect them. well, well here s the thing. i think that there is a line of thought that, that, you know, we ve become too politically correct in this country, minorities have too much power, it s time to right the ship, you need someone like steve bannon in there to do just that, right? and also, trump trump supporters saying when mr. trump says things he doesn t mean them literally, he just needs to sort of even things out. and one good example of that may be the wall. right? because on his website even this morning it still says he wants to build an impenetrable physical wall that mexico will pay for. but last night on 60 minutes he said something different. let s listen. could be it could be some fencing. what about the pledge to deport millions and millions of undocumented immigrants? what we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and criminal records, gang members, drug dealers, there are a lot of these people. probably 2 million, could even be 3 million. we re getting them out of our country, or we re going to incarcerate. but, we re getting them out of our country. they re here illegally. okay, so, so, david, maybe donald trump means when he says he s going to build this impenetrable wall and have mexico pay for it he doesn t quite mean that literally. but he is going to get something done and won t that be enough for his supporters? well, i think that remains to be seen, carol. i mean, that is what we ve already looked at in the last couple of days with some of the statements that president-elect trump has made. he has, in that interview clip that you just played, he was backing off this idea that he s going to build this big physical structure of the wall across the entire border with no fencing, just a big, as he said, big, beautiful wall and make mexico pay for it. he sounded more measured on that. he has made signals in the last couple of days that he is rethinking some of the specifics on the affordable care act saying he wants to keep in place letting people keep their kids on their insurance plan until they re 26. making insurers cover people who have pre-existing conditions. you know, if you re a fan of someone being moderate and judicious in the way they approach their job as president, i guess you could say those are good things. the difficulty is that one, those aren t the promises that he made on the campaign trail. and that number two is, is that if you re not supposed to take trump literally at his word on what he said on the campaign, how are you supposed to evaluate now what he says going forward when he s making some, what i would say are significant changes to his approach, at least rhetorically, in just the first few days of his transition? something he seems to be like toeing the line on very carefully is this idea of locking hillary clinton because those were campaign chants during the campaign lock her up. he said yesterday over the weekend that he was thinking about maybe firing the fbi director. he didn t really know. but as you know the president can appoint an fbi director. and then he said he wouldn t totally take off the table that notion that somehow hillary clinton will be prosecuted. let s listen. you called her crooked hillary, said you wanted to get her to go to jail, your people in your audiences kept saying lock her up. yeah. she did some bad things. i know but a special prosecutor? i don t want to hurt them. i don t want to hurt them. they re good people. i don t want to hurt them. and i will give you a very, very good and definitive answer the next time we do 60 minutes together. so, rebecca, thoughts? well, it does look like he is beginning to back away, carol, from his campaign promise to appoint a special prosecutor. his assessment apparently being that now that the campaign is over, it s less important to settle those scores with a former political rival. and if that is the case, and again his statement is really hard to dissect at this point, and really know what he truly means, or wants, but that should encourage a lot of people on the democratic side, i would imagine, who were very, very worried when we were hearing these chants at his rallies. when he was talking about a special prosecutor, especially because this begins to sound like sort of a third world country sort of thing that you are threatening to jail your former political opponents once you win. so i think this should be encouraging for a lot of people. and certainly it s going to be very difficult for donald trump to unite the country, as he says he wants to, if he s actively pursuing a case against hillary clinton, his former political rival. all right. i have to leave it there. thanks to all of you. still to come in the newsroom it s not just protests. a new report shows hateful harassment is up post-election. and will having a man with white nationalist ties so close to the oval office just fan the flames more? theraflu. for a powerful comeback. new expressmax caplets. it has been six days since america elected a new president and we re still a nation divided. protests planned again today in tucson and in los angeles. the lapd already dealing with several days of protests. 8,000 people marched through downtown saturday. across the country also large protests in places like new york, portland and philadelphia. this election has set us back, and has definitely shown in the world that we are not as advanced as we think we are. i have been aghast at the the behavior of donald trump. i think his racist and xenophobic rhetoric has been very disruptive. i am a single father. i pay my taxes. i m scared. i really am scared. of being deported to a country that i am not familiar with. the protesters, because of incidents like this, graffiti reading trump nation, whites only, that was discovered on sunday morning, sprayed on a wall at an episcopal church in a heavily latino neighborhood just outside of washington, d.c. the southern poverty law center says this is not an isolated incident. it has counted more than 300 cases of election related harassment and intimidation across the country. so let s talk about that. cnn s correspondent rachel crane has been looking into it. good morning. good morning, carol. one of the most disturbing things about these incidents is that the southern poverty law center is saying that the most commonly reported location of these incidents of hate crime, of these incidents of the you know racist graffiti are happening in schools. children k. through 12 engaging in this type of horrific behavior. they say that more than 40 incidents have been reported at schools. now, in michigan, at a middle school, we saw in a cafeteria children chanting build the wall, build the wall. there s a video of that. it s been viewed millions of times on social media. incredibly disturbing. to see them engaging in that type of behavior. also in minnesota at a high school we saw racist graffiti, pro-trump graffiti in a bathroom reading white america, also reading go back to africa. trump let s make america great again. also, in a high school in california, we saw a student giving out fake deportation letters to minority students. you know, this isn t just happening in high schools and middle schools, also in colleges. we saw a student at san diego state university being accosted by two people, she was wearing a hij hijab, they were spewing racial slurs, they skoel her purse, skoel her keys, stole her car. we re also seeing graffiti not just in schools but across the country in philadelphia, because in north carolina graffiti reading black lives don t matter. your vote doesn t matter. carol, just incredibly disturbing. there are some would say because you mentioned a number, 40 high schools and middle schools across the country. we live in a country of 330 million people, right? so some people might say, you know, so a tiny fraction, you know, a tiny number of idiots across the country are doing these things. but it s not a widespread problem. so how would you characterize it. well, you know, the southern poverty law center coming out and saying just this morning on cnn, there have been more than 300 incidents of this since donald trump was elected president. and they re calling on donald trump to take more responsibility for these instances. you know, just last night on 60 minutes donald trump did acknowledge that a handful of these incidences were occurring calling on the people committing these crimes to stop it. but, you know, the president of the southern poverty law center saying that there are actually hundreds of these crimes happening not just a handful. thanks so much. so here we are. there is real fear, i hear it in new york, they re surprised at this, i hear it from my family in ohio. so how do we as a nation process this? here s dave chappelle on snl. a few weeks ago i went to the white house for a party. it was the first time i had been there many years, and and it was very exciting. and b.e.t. had sponsored the party. so everyone there was black. and, it was beautiful. i walked through the gates. you know, i m from washington, so i saw the bus stop, the the corner where the bus stop used to be where i used to catch the bus to school and dream about nights like tonight. it was a really, really beautiful tonight. and at the end of the night everyone went into the west wing of the white house, and it was a huge party. and everybody in there was black except bradley cooper for some reason. and on the because were pictures of all the presidents of the past. now i m not sure if this is true but to my knowledge the first black person that was officially invited to the white house was fredrierick douglass, they stopd him at the gates. abraham lincoln himself had to walk out and escort frederick douglass at the white house. it didn t happen again as far as i know until roosevelt was president. roosevelt was president, he had a black guy over and got so much flak from the media that he literally said i will never have a nigger in this house again. i thought about that, and i looked at that and i saw all those black faces around it, and i saw and i saw how happy everybody was. these people who had been historically disenfranchised. and it made me feel hopeful. and it made me feel proud to be an american. and it made me very happy about the prospects. so in that spirit, i m wishing donald trump luck, and i m going to give him a chance, and we, the historically disenfranchised demand that he give us one, too. thank you very much. all right so that s one point of view. but this is why many minority groups worry. donald trump appointed that man name steve bannon. a man white nationalists embrace and for good reason. bannon s breitbart launched headlines like these. bill kristol a renegade jew. why islam is the single greatest threat to civilization. the ten things milo hates about islam. and six reasons pamela gellar s muhammad cartoon contest is no different from selma let s talk about the divide in our country with the executive director of c.a.r.e., welcome, sir. can you say hello to me again? because i didn t hear you. sure, yeah. oh, good. i was worried there was something wrong with your audio. i m glad there isn t anything. there are there are many people in this country that say the left wing is just in a state of hysteria right now and they should give this man a chance, so why aren t they? well, it would have legitimate concerns, and when you when you see that the president-elect appoints someone who holds anti-semitic, anti-muslim, anti-immigrant theories, you wonder, are we going to move this country forward? are we going to heal this country in the next few years? and i think the message that we see by appointing an all-right wing theorist we see it the very own message that our nation needs now. our nation is divided. our nation has been wounded. with what we have seen in the past few months and if we would like to move forward we have to appoint chief strategists who believe in the plurality, diversity and core principles of let me let me let me put it this way. steve bannon has long been a part of donald trump s campaign. so, people went out and voted. and that includes 29% of hispanics, for donald trump, and 8% of african-americans for donald trump. those are larger percentages than voted for mitt romney. so he does have some support in the minority community. yeah, true. and even a small number among american muslims voted for him. we re not talking about now donald trump himself. we re talking about appointing people who do not believe in the plurality and diversity and the core principles of this country. and we hold the president in the highest standard in defending the rights of all americans and those who arrive in the united states. by appointing steve bannon, president-elect trump is continuing to advance division and, unfortunately, dispute within americans but what, what, what is your fear about steve bannon? what, what policies might he push forward that concern you? conspiracy theories against muslims, jews, people of color, anti-women sentiment, so, you know, i can t imagine how the president of the united states will bring a bigot, and oppose that will divide america further to be a chief strategist for him in the white house. one of the most important positions in the white house, in the people s house, should have people who believe in the plurality and diversity of this country to unite americans and to heed the warnings that we have seen over so how will how will your organization help heal the wounds? what will your organization do going forward, now that you know that steve bannon is trump s chief strategic guy? by speaking truth to power. by speaking to the president. by advising him. by telling him that the appointment of a bigot in the white house does not serve america, does not unite america, it will further deepen our wounds. and president-elect trump has said on 60 minutes that he would like to bring americans together by appointing steve bannon, that is not the way to do you still have hope that mr. trump is serious when he says he wants to unite america? well i are you going to give him a chance? america needs to be united. and the president-elect now in a position to make serious and important, you know, statements by bringing people who are and we believe he has the wrong people to advise him es special ply in this key position. mr. bannon has bigoted views a will bring bigoted policies and that will not help advancing unity among americans, and making this country move forward. all right i have to leave it there. mr. awad thank you so much for joining me this morning. still to come in the newsroom, so much for repealing and replacing obamacare. now donald trump says he doesn t want to next all of obamacare. so does he mean kind of a version of trump care? we ll talk about that next. but first the opening bell moments away, is the market ready to hit another record? alison kosik is with me. good morning. the trump rally ready to roll into a second week. we are seeing the dow open at a fresh record high. that s after a string of big gains boosted by donald trump s win. look at the dow, up more than 5% over that span of time. that s about 1,000 points. also predictions of a big drop of that, never materialized.ll - so you re seeing investors focus now on pro-business, pro-growth policies like tax cuts, and deregulations. so as we get into the trading day we see the s&p 500 about 1% away from a record of its own. investors are dumping gold, they re dumping bonds, they re buying into the market, and because of this market reaction, along with a stronger economic growth we ve seen lately, carol, we can expect to see the fed, everybody see the fed raise rates next month. all right. i know you ll keep an eye on it for us. thanks so much. i ll be right back. i am benedict arnold, the infamous traitor. and i know a thing or two about trading. so i trade with e trade, where true traders trade on a trademarked trade platform that has all the. get off the computer traitor! i won t. 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is he trying to is he is he is he going for like an obamacare-light program? it sounds to me like trump is trying to say he s going to protect some of the parts of obamacare that are most popular without actually laying out a plan for doing so. so for example, one of the fundamental gains of obamacare is ending discrimination in insurance markets. no longer allowing insurers to deny insurance coverage to people just because they re sick or charge them higher prices. he hasn t mentioned that. pre-existing conditions exclusions, that s nice. but that doesn t solve the problem. so my wife, for example, a breast cancer survivor. what trump laid out if she went to the insurer, the insurer could say yeah if we offered you health insurance we d make sure to cover your breast cancer but guess what we re not going to offer you health insurance because you re sick? trump has to address that problem. so, so, so he keeps like i guess this still would have to go through congress, right? so let s say he keeps the parts of the law that, that people really like. what would that do to all of our premiums? if, if, if he could keep all of the elements that, that you say that the point is about obamacare it s complicated for a reason. the part people like is ending insurance discrimination. not allowing insurers to deny my wife coverage because she s a breast cancer survivor. however you can t have that unless you also make sure that people can afford insurance so that the healthy buy it and you get healthy people into the risk group. to just say we re going to keep the parts people like and get rid of the parts people don t, we ve tried that. seven states tried that in the 1990s. they tried to tell insurers you can t discriminate against the sick. in every single case it destroyed the insurance market, premiums went through the roof and the insurance market shrunk to a fraction of its previous size. you can t have it both ways. if you want to tell insurers they can t discriminate you need an individual mandate and subsidies to make sure healthy people come into the pool. why couldn t the government put price controls on insurance companies? the government could try to put price controls on insurance companies but then insurance companies could a, exit the market. and say i m just not going to offer insurance in this market. there s nothing the government can do about that. or b deny sick people coverage or say at that price i m not going to offer coverage to sick people. the point is the government cannot force go ahead. it s okay. the bottom line is, you can t have it both ways. if you want insurance companies to cover everyone fairly, you have to bring healthy people into the pool. and the only way to do that is with a combination of tariffs, which is tax credits to make health insurance affordable, and a stick which is a mandate to bring the healthy people in to buy insurance. i have heard i ve heard a lot of people say, you know what, there s 22 million people in obamacare right now, a large majority of them are are poor people who can t afford insurance but if they re tikd off with obamacare they ll just go to medicaid. is it as simple as that? no it s not. the 22 million people who are on obamacare right now are on parts of medicaid that didn t exist before. so for example, before on medicaid, if you were, say, 25-year-old, or say a 30-year-old single woman with no children, and an income of $5,000 a year, you had no access to health insurance. that simply didn t exist. obamacare expanding medicaid said we re going to guarantee our poorest citizens, very poorest citizens a right to health insurance coverage. in those states that choose to expand medicaid. if you take that away then a woman like that simply has no coverage options. okay. jonathan gruber, thanks for stopping by. we ll all see what happens together. thank you so much. still to come in the newsroom, people in aleppo, syria, flee now or face heavy bombing within 24 hours. it s the look on their faces that make it all worthwhile. thank you santa!!! now lease the 2017 c300 for $389 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. imagine getting a text that your city is going to be bomd and you better get out when you can. people in aleppo, syria, are not imagining that. they re living it. that s the text they got and syrian rebels in the city are being told to lay down their weapons or die. cnn is following that from amen, jordan for us. good morning. good morning, carol. according to residents of eastern aleppo that we ve spoken to, they say early on sunday they received these various text messages that they believe are from the syrian regime, really with a warning, addressed to the rebels in eastern aleppo, but also to the residents, a warning, an ultimatum, giving people 24 hours, telling the rebels to lay down their weapons, or even leave the city, and they re really warning of a military assault that they say is going to be launched on eastern aleppo. the people that we ve spoken to, carol, say this is something they ve seen in the past, these sorts of messages, they ve received them in the past on leaflets that have been dropped on their neighborhoods or broadcast through state media. they feel this is part of the psychological warfare and intimidation tactics to spread fear amongst the population in eastern aleppo. but, at the same time, there is this real sense of apprehension amongst the people in eastern aleppo, those that we have spoken to are absolutely terrified, carol, of what they feel might be an all-out military assault by the syrian regime, and their russian allies that could start any minute now. all right. jomana reporting live for us from jordan. thanks so much. still to come in the newsroom more americans picked clinton but trump won the white house. now some, well, some mostly on the left are saying it is time to change the electoral system. hey dad! wishes do come true. the lincoln wish list sales event is on. get exceptional offers on the lincoln family of luxury vehicles. sign and drive off in a new 2017 lincoln mkc with zero down and a complimentary first month s payment. college over the years, including by the way, newt gingrich. now, look, is this going to have any practical effect? well, in one sense, no. hillary clinton in the end will win the popular vote probably by a record in american history. right now she s up as you mentioned 700,000 or so. the estimates are that she will end up winning by one and a half to two million votes. that s a lot of votes. you may remember al gore won the popular vote but he won it by 540,000. much, much fewer than hillary clinton. so you know, it has practical effects on a president because it gives his critics a useful retort to any proposal he makes. well, you weren t elected by the people. you were elected by this antiquated invention of the founders that fit the 1790s but doesn t fit the 21st century. although his new chief of staff, reince priebus, put it another way this morning. let s listen. he played the exact strategy that a smart person would play in the 12 states that mattered and he won significantly. so i get the obsession over the popular vote but that s really not what this election was all about. okay. this was not what this election was all about. he said if donald trump had gone to california, he probably would have won california but he didn t choose to go there. there s absolutely zero chance that he would have even come close in california. newt gingrich made the same argument yesterday that if the popular vote mattered, donald trump would have campaigned in california and won at least two million more votes which is of course, absurd on its face. but you also have to ask what would hillary clinton have done. well, her campaign which was well organized and had tons of money would have organized the blue parts of red states. they didn t bother to organize the college towns and big cities in red states because they knew it was hopeless. they weren t going to win the electoral vote. but if they had done so, she would have picked up millions of additional votes. so this is an argument that is a non-starter. so how likely is it that anything will change when it comes to the electoral college? carol, you know the gallop poll for many users, even decades, has shown that a very large majority of americans wants to abolish this crazy institution, the electoral college. we are the only democracy in the world that doesn t count the popular vote. you can win the popular vote, you can lose the presidency. it s already happened five times in american history. it s going to be happening more frequently as long as we have close elections and the democrats will be disproportionately disadvantaged by this. so all i can tell you is if the people have their way, it would be abolished, because we are incapable of reforming our system and i say that sadly. the electoral college will be abolished on the 12th of never. just quickly, remind us why there s an electoral college anyway. well, there s an electoral college for a number of reasons. certainly one reason was it was a request slash demand of mal r smaller states particularly those that were slave states, mainly because the founders did not trust the people. we had no popular election in the beginning. we went through five presidential elections before we got to or five presidents before we got to a popular vote in the 1820s and even then it was extremely limited to a relative handful of white men, mainly propertied men. no women, no african-americans, so on. so it s been a long, hard process to broaden the franchise and this is an important point to make. it still shows that the franchise is not universal because the people don t pick the president. have to leave it there. thanks for stopping by. the next hour of cnn newsroom after a break. when a moment spontaneously turns romantic, why pause to take a pill? 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[ inaudible ] reporter: but pence and the transition are vowing to clean up washington with now restrictions on lobbyists joining the administration. governor chris christie folks was unwlooefl. reporter: part of the criticism with chris christie is he had too many lobbyists on board leading trump loyalists to question what happened to drain the swamp. trump himself seemed resigned to working with the lobbyist he blasted on the campaign trail. you don t like it but your own transition team filled with lobbyists. only people you have down there. reporter: on saturday donald trump will be meeting with the governor of massachusetts, former governor of massachusetts, mitt romney, at trump s golf course in bed minster new jersey. a location where trump held debate prep over the summer before the debates with hillary clinton. and as for the coming weeks we should point out after thanksgiving, trump aides are telling reporters they are going to be planning a thank america tour. and trump will go out and thank americans for supports hill. i also suspect he ll be talk about bringing the country together. they are not calling it a victory tour but a thank america tour. and jeremy diamond has been covering trump from day one of the campaign. he s outfront tonight. exhausted man and it is just beginning jeremy. the meeting just ended. this crucial meeting between first world leader for the president elect. this was a big moment for trump. reporter: it seems like but hopefully you can still here. prime minister abe just spoke here at the intercontinental barclay in new york following his meeting with donald trump. this is the first meeting that donald trump has had in person with a foreign head of state. and of course this is significant because donald trump is ramping up his preparations to actually take over the duties of president of the united states. just this week he had his first presidential daily briefing which he has begun to receive now preparing him for the challenges ahead as president. and of course while he met with prime minister abe he has been meeting speaking of the phone rather with about 32 foreign heads of state. prime minister abe declined to offer details on what exactly was discussed in this meeting. but what he did say was it was a, quote, very candid discussion. and e got the sense he ll be able to establish a relationship of trust with donald trump as president of the united states. saying that of course is the bedrock of any alliance between the two countries, a very important alliance and all on the heels of donald trump during his campaign frequently criticizing japan saying they need to take on a bigger share of the burden for their defense costs. so of course a very candid meeting saying that perhaps they aired certain grievances or discussions. but of course donald trump s campaign has yet to comment exactly on what that meeting was about. but prime minister abe saying no details but certainly emerging with a good feeling of confidence and trust. thank you very much jeremy. and source close to the japanese prime minister telling me today that issue about how much they are going to pay is crucial. they feel like they already pay plenty. we ll see. this is of course the beginning of a crucial relationship. outfront now patrick healey from the new york times. jamie . let s start with mitt romney. and i m sorry my jaw is on the ground. but i m going to show everybody why in a moment. would he really want a job in this administration? he s called trump a phony, con man and more. when i got the call about this p news today i was shocked. this may be crazy or it may be one of the smartest things you have ever seen if it will work. here is what i know. mitt romney has told friends for a long time that he would still like to go back into government and serve and there was one job he wanted. and that was secretary of state. so clearly he s having this meeting because he s at least willing to listen to what donald trump has to say despite all of those things that he said. and i ve been told by a source that the people on the transition say there is, from their perspective, a serious possibility that he would be offered state. but obviously the meeting hasn ten happened. and one person is going to decide. and that is of course donald trump. kayleigh not only did mitt romney say extremely negative things about donald trump. trump returned the favor. les anyone has forgotten. let me play it. here is what i know. donald trump is a phony, a fraud. but here is a disloyal guy. he s an elitist. his promises are as worthless as a degree from trump university. a stone cold loser. not just a loser. a stone cold loser: but romney went in detail. this went on and on. he county for donald trump because he supports . would trump actually pick mitt romney? i think donald trump is going to pick the best person for the job. and look, they exchanged some rather caustic barbs, there is no denying that. but it is very commendable that the president elect is bringing in people who are his adversaries. because what he realizes is at the end of the day it is not about who s personally offended by who said what. it is who is best for the american people. and donald trump wants the most qualified person, regardless of political bruises, he wants the best person for the job. and loyalty matters to him, patrick. loyalty matters enormously and let s not get ahead of ourselves. donald trump has two goals. one is to the party was divided not so long ago. when you become president elect you can start uniting the party with the big people. people like nikki haley and mitt romney. people who did aoppose you. paul ryan. you can start bringing those people in. he wants everybody to at least be heading towards his side of the fence. so make peace. the thing is donald trump also is having people in to see who he hits it off with and who he doesn t. gut. a lot of thf is a gut reaction. but i remember talking to him at one point. during the campaign he liked the team of rivals idea that barack obama and hillary clinton had. you can find plenty of clips from 2008 where obama and clinton said lots of tough things. not quite as nasty you get that. so i never thought i would agree with mitt romney about anything. but mitt romney was right. donald trump is a phony. he s a con man. he s a fraud. xenophobic, a racist and a bigot. and one reason the mormon church has rejected him. at one point somebody is going to be secretary of state. do you want it to be rudy giuliani or mitt romney who would you? what i want to say is i don t think we should normsz what s happening. which is that donald trump is not capable of the conducting foreign policy. he s not capable of about stringing together three or four sentences in thinking of an idea. to the point rudy giuliani is not qualified to be secretary at a time [chatter]. no no. i don t care who s secretary of state because actually the top the buck stop there is. and the problem is donald trump is not qualified to be president. he s not but he is president. okay? he is. i m just saying in terms of the policy about thinking about someone been able to conduct foreign policy it is a scary thought for all of america. i really wish you would adhere to the words of the president obama. use this bigot and a racist and i m nopt going to normalize him. and my goal is to try to make donald trump a one-term president. and to delegitimatize him as every step. and mischaracterize him at every step too. barack obama said donald trump not an idea log, he s a pragmatist this past week. if donald trump can come to terms with a mitt romney who can bring in a very professional staff and they can make this work that is a pragmatic outcome. a major test. this meeting coming up. next the democrats new trump study guide. if you can t beat him, join him. and should muslim b s afraid of immigrant registry. there is precedent with japanese entertainment camps and we ll take you to the small down where melania trump grew up. no matter how the markets change. at t. rowe price. our disciplined approach remains. global markets may be uncertain. but you can feel confident in our investment experience around the world. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. afoot and light-hearted i take to the open road. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me. i really did save hundreds on my car insurance with geico. i should take a closer look at geico. geico has a long history of great savings and great service. over seventy-five years. wait. seventy-five years? 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i think separating two things reflecting what bernie said. if things like internment camps come un. dividing people. misogyny. rolling back rights. we ll fight him tooth and nail. on the other hand bernz bernie sanders and his campaign argued for a big infrastructure campaign. what will be really interesting is what commonalities on maybe on trade. donald trump made a big teal about the zast over nafta, which i agreed with. the tpp is probably dead in the lame duck e session. but will it come up again. and on that if he opposes the t.p.p. and other bad trade agreements on the issue of racism. as harsh as mitt romney. but last night he said it is wrong for democrats to accuse trump supporters of being racist. okay? it is a powerful thing for him to say. here is what he said. there are a lot of democrats o who think anyone who voted for trump is a racist. there are a lot of people out there who think it. joe biden is telling those people to wake un. i this was that so important what he did. and it speaks to this really you know, we look at the map. and not only are we seeing different you know, hillary won this and donald trump won that. but there is a lack of understanding about what was behind so much of that. and the racism, when you go back and you look at the numbers, some people have a very loud voice but they are very small number of people and i think, you know, biden saying that, president obama saying that, is critical over and over again. that is not to dismiss that a lot of people still feel unsettled or scared. my kids are in college. they have friends who are dreamers. who are worried about, you know, their parents. so you have to balance these things. you have to acknowledge the fear and those experiences but you have to keep the racism realistic. there is a powerful statement and reminded me just how quickly hillary clinton walked back that half of term supporters were deplorable. she knew almost instantly she stepped in it. but she still stepped it. and the reality is her campaign, they made a choice for wide swaths of americans in pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin. they weren t going to talk to those people. and whether it was because they thought their intentions, we don t know you know, the people who aren t with us. and i think what joe biden was trying to do was to say if the democratic party is going to be a big tent party we can t just be generalizing about americans. what they can do is hold democrats need to look to the republican party as the case study for what s happening in their own. we ve been talk about the republican party that s split in half. doesn t know kwla s going to happen. now all of a sudden they have to figure that out. and bernie sanders lays out a democratic party in complete chaos my party, that is to say that the voters saying their leaders don t represent them adequately was happening all along in the democratic party and why we almost saw bernie sanders win the nomination and the dnc was stacked against him. more salt in the wounds and the democratic party has on its hands like the republican party had. an outsider coming in to take over the party. crump, i believe is a bigot and racist. i think the way he promoted birtherism and attacked mexicans and all that is my second point. no. and i agree the vice president. many of those voters rejected the democratic party partly on economics. the reason i did not support hillary clinton. i thought bernie sanders would have a much better messenger and he would have won that campaign and defeated donald trump. some of donald trump s supporters were saying, going beyond what donald trump had said in terms of racist sex no question. painting, you know, the president elect s entire voter base with one broad brush is terrible politics. the thing for democrats to figure out right now. hillary clinton was a unique candidate. she appealed to the donor class and the multi millionaire class and also trying to appeal [chatter]. african american, women. but here is the thing. what joe biden is talk about and maybe bernie could have won them. maybe joe biden could have won them. is a large pool of white middle class and working class american whose, you know who she didn t she could never figure way to broaden that message that did appeal to some african americans. you know, people didn t turn out and we saw that with women as well. all right. thanks to all and next a key trump supporter says world war ii internment camps so you would serve as the precedent for registry of immigrant. and florida governor rick scott met with donald trump and walked across town and he s outfront coming up. her words. and my brother ray and i started searching for answers. 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[ inaudible ]. different places. he certainly suggested a muslim database. and he classified his comments down the lined and the fact of the matter is the mainstream media is hissing here is donald trump is looking for the most appropriate and most effective way to keep americans safe and i don t think that is being echoed by the mainstream media pushing on him to say oh you are this. you are that. he s trying to keep america safe. that s you do. that s me. that s kids everywhere. it is not necessarily effective that is the problem. not only does this run counter to our values but there is really not much values that such muslim registry or a specific muslim like country register would effectively prevent terrorism. president obama disbanded this program. we haven t had any major terrorist attacks. and this becomes a recruiting tool for isis. it is almost like encouraging racial profiling of muslim people, which it effect is doing and that actually helps to encourage terrorist whose want to attack us who look at us as an enemy of the muslim world. how would you propose some tracking for people coming to this country who are coming from countries or areas of questionable you know, obviously conflict. how would you propose doing that? if we don t have a tracking system for the people coming in. he s not advocating to talk about people here in america under constitutional protection. those are the people who when you look at orlando, people who actually carried out some of these recent attacks. if you just look on a raw basis people who are american citizens who are home grown terrorists who are committing acts of terrorism and we don t necessarily isolate people and identify them based on lineal. there is no way to guarantee ethnicity or nationality or religion . to do so is a damaging step for america to take. and it damage ours credibility around the world. would you include 80-year-old christian women in the potential terrorist ring. we have to be somewhat intelligence and narrow it down. there are 1.6 million i presume he s talk about the indonesia. which has had its own issue but that would give them cover to say oh it s not just muslim majority issue. one of the issues ear is whether it s slippery slope. you start with a list and a list can be used for other things. to fox and the new york times you said the japanese internment camps could provide precedents for supporting registries. their existence could provide precedent for a registry of people. did you see the tape though? yes. we all saw it. and i read disturb. at no point base i ever even mention it. i was actually talk about the immigration reform under carter when he did the iran thing and also under world war ii. megan brought it up and i was shocked. she brought it up and you did say to the new york times that it would be a precedent for a register. exactly. here is thing. i don t actually advocate for any of this. i didn t bring it up. i was shocked when megan brought it up. i clarified today this is something that is a huge black mark on our society and we would never want to do it again. but you have to say that supreme court decision upholding with never overturned. should we overturn it? we should take a look another it. you are saying we don t support it but we should you re backtracking and now you don t want to be seen as that person saying those things. but the reality is it is out there and that decision that you talked about. that decision in 1944, even justice antonin scalia said it is one of the worst decisions ever made by the united states supreme court. we don t want to go back to that precedent. just because there is an example in history means that we have to go that direction. this is an example of the black people being enslaved. we don t have go back to that either. donald trump was asked about internments and asked to disavow them. to time magazine he said i would have to be there at the time to give you a proper answer. i certainly hate the con but i would have had to be there at the time to give you a direct answer. and . what i m doing is no different than what f.d.r. f.d.r. s solution for german s italian, japanese many years ago. so you are for internment camps? you are praising f.d.r. you are praising the set up of internment camps for no i m not. what he was doing with germans and japaneses and italians was a he had do it. look we are at war radical islam. you certainly aren t imposing internment camps. no not all. he keeps upbringing f.d.r. is this not a slippery slope right in that direction. every time someone said internment camps he said that no no. but he needs to stake a look at it. we band immigration. we scrutinized it. and registered people coming in from certain places. it is all in the best interest to protect america. and just like the media that went in frenzy today over that. doesn t understand. do you want to be safe or not. he s not trying to hurt anybody. he s just trying to keep americans safe. blab rb barack obama did this. even know [chatter]. and we should continue to have heightened vetting for people coming into the country but the reality is the president has determined the national security apparatus has determined this is not an effective strategy in terms of fighting terrorism. and when donald trump talks about any type of registry, regardless whether it is religious specific he has a history of saying offensive words about muslims so doz going to be interpreted as ab attack on the muslim community and that is not good for america. that will encourage terrorism and that is not a healthy solution. he s not anti-muslim. tell that to the muslim people. he s in fear of the radical faction of the muslim community that s done harm to the americans and the people abroad. my next was just there with donald trump. rick scott of florida. he s outfront next and the deep-seated fears some have of president elect trump. this country is my home. i feel like it is not. i feel like i m not welcome here anymore. the morning ritual around here. people rely on that first cup and i wouldn t want to mess with that. but when (my) back pain got bad, i couldn t sleep. i had trouble getting there on time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour strength of aleve. for pain relief that can last into the morning. look up at a new day. hey guys! now i m back. aleve pm for a better am. why pause a spontaneous moment? 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you wanted a feast, you got it. feasts like these make the holidays the holidays, so come try one before it ends. breaking news. anti-trump protests for a ninth day. president obama rejecting calls to reign them in. i would not advise people who feel strongly or are concerned about some of the issues that have been raised during the course of campaign, i wouldn t advise them to be silent. clinton s loss has been hard for her supporters. especially some of the women. kyung lah is outfront. you ready to get moving? nothing in her liberal community in los angeles has changed since the week of the presidential election. yet everything has. as comforting as as our bubble is that we live in, it is hard as it is to have these conversations now, it is important to i m sorry. it is important start listening. why is this so personal for you? children matter to me. and our minorities matter to me. because they are my friends and my community. and i want to make sure this they are okay and they don t feel okay. they feel really scared. if 2016 was identity politics, women across social media feel theirs is under attack in clinton s loss. video messages from miley cyrus. please, please just treat people in love and treat people with compassion and treat people with respect. to ordinary voters. this country is my home. i feel like it is not. i feel like i m not welcome here anymore. reporter: emotion is spilled onto the streets of los angeles. mothers carrying signs and children. students walking out of classrooms at ucla. these students supported hillary clinton. reporter: when you say you have fear in you, what do you mean? well i m a woman, i m black, i m muslim. and those three factors basically being a black muslim women in america today is very scary and trump being elected just further build on to my fears. i how can i go forward knowing that people are okay with someone coming out and bragging about sexual assault and still voting for that person? i ve had to wake up to the reality that a lot of america is not like what los angeles is like. reporter: more than week on, west coast women are still learni learning about their new national reality. it just doesn t look like any reality they believed they were living. there is this underlying fear in everything. and it is really unsettling. it is really unsettling feeling. reporter: that feeling is being driven by anxiety of the unknown. they see what trump is doing, that it appears that he s walking back on some of his most extreme policies but then these women say he appoints steve bannon which signals that president elect trump will probably be candidate trump in their perspective. and erin we also asked do you want to know the other 50%, do you want to reach out to them, understand them? the mother in that piece said yes, she has to so she can bring them under the tent. but the college students said they are not quite so sure. perhaps something that comes with age. thank you very much. and outfront next. from small town schoolgirl to the white house. we ll go to slovenia to trace melania trump s hometown roots melania trump, neighbor, childhood friends in the late 1970s, exchanged notes. melania is now principal of the elementary school. he remembers melania as mature, well spoken. a peacemaker between mature fighting children. and someone from an early age who dreamed of leaving slovenia to pursue a career as fashion designer. professional photographer saw melania had potential in front of the camera. he approached her on streets of the capital in 1987 and asked her to model for him. he says she was a natural. the first time and the second time. reporter: peter hung out with melania as their modelling career was taking off. they cruised the area on his blue transport. still original color. also original leather seat. yes and she was here. reporter: melania hasn t lived there since she left elementary school. but the morning after trump s victory the american flag flew here next to the slovanian and european flag. the town beaming with pride but also well aware of the campaign including what donald trump calls locker room talk and allegations of the sexual assault which he denied. for every woman are not some easy words to hear from her husband. reporter: she and melania went to high school together. that is melania on the right. what do you think of the man she chose to be her husband. it is her choice.
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yes. i put them all in jail. he did put them all in jail, including crazy eddie himself, his cousin, who got seven years in the pokie. now, speaking of pokey, stick a pen in that for a second. you know how donald trump s sister is a federal judge it hasn t really been a big point of discussion in this campaign but his sister is a federal judge. it came up a little bit during the republican primaries. he asked who he wanted to put on the supreme court and the first name suggested was his sister and then we all had to check to see if he was joking. he said he was joking. but his older sister is a well-regarded moderate federal judge on the circuit court of appeals. donald trump s sister, the federal judge, was married to the man who was the lawyer for crazy eddie all through the crazy, crazy eddie scandal. his name was john barry. he did white collar defense and corporate litigation. he s passed away now. but he was crazy eddie s lawyer through the wads of cash, taped to crazy eddie s body and the cousin narking them out and the whole thing. crazy eddie s lawyer was married to donald trump s sister. crazy eddie s lawyer was also donald trump s personal lawyer for years. and on top of all of that, john barry was also the lawyer that is freaking out the party right now. new jersey is one of those states that holds its statewide elections in off years. their race was not in 2012. it was in 2013. the next one will be in the fall of 2017. they hold their statewide elections in odd number of years. new jersey has been that way for a long time. virginia is the same way. there aren t many states who do that. one of the consequences of being an off-year election state is when they elect their governor in these weird, odd numbered years, they don t have a lot of competition for attention, right? there are not a lot of big ticket races going on to compete for everybody s dollars and the national parties to get involved. just by virtue of the weird schedule. they can get a bunch of national attention and that s what happened in 1981. so in context, that was a year after ronald reagan was elected to the presidency in 1980. the year after that, november of 1981, new jersey had its governor s race. and in that governor s race in 1981, the national republican party newly energized from that huge win with reagan and how they took the seats in congress and the senate, republican party decided they had another shot to go for another big race and they decided to basically flood the zone in that new jersey governor s race in 1981. the republicans flew in national political operatives. they launched this very aggressive scheme where they challenged the registration of thousands of new jersey voters who turned up to the polls in newark, camden and trenton. and in about 75 minority heavy precincts across new jersey that year in that race, they put up these four-foot tall warning signs. when i first saw images of these signs online and in old newspaper articles and stuff, i thought these were like flyers and the piece of a paper and put them on telephone poles or something. they were sandwich board posters, four-foot tall signs that they put outside of polling areas saying, warning, this area is being patrolled by the national ballot security task force. it s a crime to violate election laws. and they were not bluffing. the rnc did actually invent something called a ballot security task force and put these guys on patrol in minority heavy precincts. it s interesting. nobody had advanced warning that they are coming. they just showed up on election day and nobody knew to expect it. they had off-duty police officers and sheriff deputies carrying walkie-talkies wearing ballot security task force arm bands. many were openly carrying guns and they stalked around polling places in minority-heavy districts while they demanded that election workers strike these people off the election rolls. several of these signs were reported at polling places at newark s fourth ward. poll watchers, some of them off-duty policemen wearing guns and arm bands were also near the polls as part of the task force set up by the republican and national state committees to guard against fraud but democrats charge it was a scare campaign to intimidate voters primarily in minority neighborhoods. yeah, you think? who knows how many people were blocked or intimidated from voting in that election in new jersey in 1981. but as voter suppression schemes go, this one clearly worked. both parties would claim that it definitely worked. there were 3 million votes cast in that governor s race. it was decided by less than 1800 votes. and the republican won. and then the democrats sued. the democrats sued the republican party over this ballot security task force stunt. and you know who the republicans used as their lawyer to defend them in that case? donald trump s brother-in-law. the crazy eddie guy who was married to donald trump s sister. he was the lawyer for the republican party in that case in new jersey. and he got creamed in court. i mean, the damage was already done in terms of that governor s race. the republicans won that election by this many votes, right? and the democrats weren t going to be able to get that election back. but what the democrats did get was something called a consent decree, which bans the republican national committee from doing this kind of thing again, from doing anything like this, that problem hib bits them from being involved in any poll-watching shenanigans that targets minority voters. and now today, in 2016, now the snake starts eating its own tail. in 2016, it s not donald trump s brother-in-law, it s now donald trump who is losing that exact case all over again for the republican national committee. go down to certain areas and watch and study and make sure other people don t come in and vote five times. so important that you watch other communities because we don t want this election stolen from us. so go and vote and then go check out areas because a lot of bad things happen. when i say watch, you know what i m talking about, right? you know what i m talking about. take a look at philadelphia, what s been going on. take a look at chicago, take a look at st. louis. every time he says that, you can go ahead and picture reince priebus hiding under a desk, because that s a really dangerous path for the republican party to be on legally. the republican party is still bound by that consent decree from that case in 1981. that case that was lost by donald trump s brother-in-law on behalf of the republican party. because of that case, the republican party has promised they are legally bound to not do the kind of racially charged poll watching they got caught doing back in the battle days in new jersey in 1981. they ve promised not to do it. they are legally bound not to do it through the end of that consent decree and that consent decree was put in place by one way or another since the early 1980s. it is finally set to expire next year. in 2017. the republican party would desperately like to get out from under that consent decree that they have been under since the 1980s but they will not get out from under it if they get caught violating it. they won t get out from under it if they get caught doing racially charged, racially targeted poll watching again like they used to do and that they got caught for. they will not get out from that consent decree if they actually do what donald trump is now asking all republicans to go do now on his behalf. go down to certain areas and watch. watch other communities. go check out areas. when i say watch, you know what i m talking about, right? you know what i m talking about. take a look at philadelphia, chicago, st. louis. or don t. or don t. or don t. thanks to that old case, lost by donald trump s brother-in-law in the early 80s, one of this year s more unexpected freakouts within the republican party is now officially under way. the republican party has issued a special request to all rnc members to please not do what donald trump is asking them to do, to please not gather around polling places in philadelphia and st. louis and chicago or anywhere no matter what the republican presidential candidate is saying on the stump. the national party sent a whole the whole rnc a memo to, quote, remind you of the restrictions placed on the rnc by the consent decree. quote, you are encouraged not to engage in ballot security activities even in your personal state party or campaign capacity if you elect to do so, please be aware that the rnc in no way sanctions your activity. i mean, right now, as it stands, the republican party is legally bound to not do any racially specific poll watching through next year, through 2017. if they get caught doing it, though, the consent decree gets extended until 2025. and the republican party does not want that. they really do not want that. crazy eddie s lawyer is now long gone. but it is kind of amazing that it is now his brother-in-law, the republican nominee for president this year who s the one screwing up that big case, that john barry lost for the republican party back in the 80s. i mean, in the waning days of these elections, in the last two weeks, donald trump is telling his supporters that he doesn t trust the polls anymore and neither should they. he tweeted this this morning. we have not edited this in any way. see if you can figure out why i m saying this. major story that the dems are making up phony polls in order to suppress the the trump. we are going to win. democrats are making up phony polls to suppress the the trump. is that the the so? anything could happen. election day may be a hulla-ba-loo. if they do go try to have a task force or what have you, anything could happen. but right now, the new york times probability that the the trump will lose this election is 93%. the 538 probability is more conservative. they put it at 86%. those are pretty high numbers. it may be that the actual drama in this case is moving down. 538 says there s a 74% chance. the democrats are going to take the senate. new york times puts that probability slightly lower at 67%. because of those kind of numbers, democrats are thinking about long term, right? democrats are thinking about how they can make this a big win for the democratic party beyond winning the white house for hillary clinton. we ve got a bunch of interesting reporting on that subject still ahead tonight, including one race that the democrats are really screwing up. on the other side of the aisle, though, republicans are also thinking long term. republicans are looking at donald trump and thinking about what else it is that they have to lose this year besides the presidency. the republicans basically know now that picking donald trump to be their presidential nominee has almost certainly cost them the white house. what they have to worry about now is whether that s it, whether the price of choosing donald trump might actually be sort of insane. we ve got more ahead tonight. stay with us. his prices are insane. hit me, hit me. ha, ha. whenou he cold, you just want powerful rief. ly new alkseltzer plus fr oarfici dyes d presvative liquid gels delive towerful co symptomelief you needithout thennecessa dives you don t. store manager: cln up, aie alkaeltzer plus liquidels. on this show a couple of days ago. i ll correct it this evening. there s something that i think the democratic party is currently getting very, very wrong but in that case i have no expectation that they will correct it because i don t think they think that they are wrong. but i do. and that story is next. ing 60,000 points from my chase ink card i boug allhe frark. wire. and plants needed to give my sh. a face. neededno oneill forget. e what the power of poin can do forour business. learn more at chase.com/in e t the best place toren castart is in the forest. ku: i y somethin beginnin e t the best place toren castarbeetle: snow.orest. kubo: . etle: snow covered trees. monkey: nothing to do with snow. narrator: head outside to discoverncredible animals and beautifuplants that come together narratorto can outside to diunfoettae adnture.imals kubo: wow! and beautifuplants that come together narrator: so grab your loved ones monkey: n t even. narratorand explore a world of possibilities. ku: comen, this way. narrator: visit discoverthorest.org to find the closes forest or park to you. he thinks that because he has money, that he can call women fat pigs and bimbos. he thinks that because he s a celebrity that he can rate women s bodies from 1 to 10. he thinks that because he has a mouthful of tic-tacs he can grope any woman within groping distance. i ve got news for you, donald trump, women have had it with guys like you. [cheers and applause ] and nasty women have really had it with guys like you. yeah. and get this, donald, nasty women are tough. nasty women are smart and nasty women vote. and on november 8th, we nasty women are going to march our nasty feet to cast our nasty votes to get you out of our lives forever. elizabeth warren i think coining nasty feet for the first time in political history. we keep saying things are unprecedented and then we keep saying, oh, yeah, in the 1860s. i think nasty feet is first. i think that was a first. elizabeth warren on the campaign trail with hillary clinton. this is the first time they have campaigned together in the same place since the democratic convention. as you saw there, elizabeth warren scorched donald trump but she saved some of her other best bolts for one of the senate colleagues for kelly ayotte of new hampshire who is up for re-election who may not survive. donald trump, call latinos rapists and murderers, trump stayed with him. trump called them thugs and kelly stuck with them. trump attacked a gold star family and kelly struck with him. trump even attacked kelly ayotte and called her weak. and kelly stuck with him. i mentioned at the top of the show that the chances of the democratic party taking control of the senate are pretty good right now. that s 67% from the new york times, the highest probability the times has put on that yet all year long. and that is just one number for an overall probability that the democrats will win control of the senate. but it s not just one election, right? taking the senate doesn t happen in one fell swoop, it happens race by race and candidate by candidate. that s why the top campaign events now sound like this. marco rubio said donald trump is a con man and donald trump is dangerous. therefore, i support whoa, whoa, whoa. wait a minute. how can that work? if he won t stand up against donald trump and there are plenty of republican who is are standing up against donald trump and calling him out. marco rubio won t. and patrick murphy will be a great u.s. senator. tim kaine taking some shots at republican senator marco rubio who is up for re-election in florida. senator kaine there also talking up the democratic candidate in that race, congressman patrick murphy. and you would think things would be going reasonably well for patrick murphy right now. the polls have definitely tightened in that race. the latest poll in florida shows him within two points of marco rubio. last week, patrick murphy got the endorsement of marco rubio s hometown paper, the miami herald. he s been endorsed by all four of florida s largest newspapers, three of which backed marco rubio when he first ran for the senate. also, the prevailing climate looks good for democrats in florida. hillary clinton leading trump by about four points at the top of the ticket. democrats running a huge ground operation in that state. and so, mystery, here s the mystery. why is the democratic party just pulled its money out of the senate race? last week, the campaign arm of the senate democrats canceled millions of dollars of florida ads they were going to run against marco rubio and for patrick murphy. that followed by a couple of weeks the biggest democratic super pac doing the same thing. why is that? i mean, i know that the democrats have to make choices. i get that, obviously. democrats want to win as many seats as possible advertising florida as expensive. the amount of money it takes to advertise a week in florida, you could spend the same amount of money and advertise in two or three cheaper states, states like north carolina or missouri. the timing and strategy of this is still weird. florida would really appear to be a winnable race for the dems. these are the last three polls. they ve either shown a tie or it s within two points. early voting has started in most florida counties. democrats are psyched with where they are. they believe they are ahead of where they were four years ago when romney beat obama in florida. the latino vote in florida is up, oh, i don t know, 99%, from this same point in the race four years ago. 99% increase in the latino vote. how do you think donald trump s going to do with the latino vote? by all objective measures, marco rubio would appear to be beatable in florida in a race which could determine control. he got shellacked there in the presidential primary. now, he s going to win there while donald trump likely loses the state? really? why are democrats giving up on this race? does it make sense? joining us now is steve, former state director for the 2008 obama campaign in florida and senior adviser in 2012, now a democratic strategist. mr. shell, it s really nice to have you here. thanks for having me on, rachel. do you think i mean, first of all, am i describing the democratic calculus here right, that it s so expensive to spend money in florida that maybe you re better off spending that money in the same states in is that basically the map that they are doing here or have they got other factors? they viewed this very anti-septically. the reality is, patrick murphy shouldn t be standing and i think they were right in september when down 7 or 8 points to slow walk the race. but the last four polls have shown even two and down one in two polls and down in another. we re basically in a dead heat. 14 days out, it s like it was and i don t understand the decision at this point. well, and is this the sort of thing where in these last two weeks money from the democratic party is what he needs? obviously you think that he s in shooting distance but in terms of what he needs to do to win, would tv ads and radio ads be the sort of thing that would make the difference here? yeah, absolutely. there s an old saying in florida that the win state you have to lose statewide and it comes from name i.d. or without money. murphy really shouldn t be standing. he s out 4-1 since the primary but he is. and what he needs is help with hispanics, which the president has cut an ad in spanish for him and needs help with name i.d. and the i-4 corridor. places li places like tampa and orlando and i think with the clinton turnout operation, today the early vote numbers and major i-4 counties are phenomenal for us. i mean, really almost shockingly good. i think he s right in this thing. in terms of the more personal picture here, it s also not that it s just any senator. it s marco rubio. yeah. and i wonder, within florida, having been beaten so badly in his home state primary, i mean, he lost the republican presidential primary badly but he really lost at home, what s marco rubio standing in the state and what are his long-term prospects as a politician coming from florida right now? well, i think there s two ways to look at it. first of all, if you look at our u.s. senate races, in the same term as presidential elections, our democratic nominees are usually within a point or two of the top of the ticket. the only exception is bill nelson who outperformed president obama in 2012. marco rubio is no bill nelson. he didn t get a majority of the year when he ran and, you know, we go into this thing and republicans acknowledge it s a race at this point and, again, i don t really want to have this conversation with you in 2019 and say, wow, if we had only spent 4, 5 million more, we could have taken him out when we had the chance. senior adviser, 2012, democratic strategist, steve, thanks for being with us. nice to see you. thanks again, rachel. all right. still ahead, some surprising and slightly nauseating news from a person who i think is the most surprising senate candidate of the year. that s ahead. stay with us. miles per ho. to wboth on the track matters. d thousands of miles away. wi t help of at&t, red bull racing can sha critical information about every inbrakes a gettingarm.tually anywhere. coirmed, daniel you need to cool your brakes. vi tm the agility to hek 2ally spee& precisn. becae no one knows & l at&t. 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redrawing congressional districts along party lines feels flat-out wrong but it is, in most cases, how the system is built and republicans really did pull off this amazing trick in 2010 with very little money and no hoopla and republicans have had nothing equivalent to this in their toolbox. after president obama won in 2008, republicans mobilized this little thing, they were able to mastermind it and execute this plan. it was political genius. mr. jankowski, welcome to genius week. i think you were a genius. president obama has 87 days last in office. he s almost done. we have now learned a little bit about what he s going to do next after leaving office. and so, behold, the national democratic redistricting committee. he s going to be focused on redistricting reform for democrats. they are going to organize initiatives and legal challenges to redistricting maps and push for democrats winning in down-ticket races. president obama s former attorney general eric holder is going to chair the group and president obama has decided he wants this to be the main political focus of his post-presidency life. redistricting. what a better time to start than now. and as of right now, president obama is taking his first presidential jab at those key down-ticket races. he s doing something he s never done before. this week, president obama is endorsing 150 candidates for state senate and senate assembly across 20 different states. he specifically is targeting state candidates who win might flip a state legislature. this is a huge effort. this is something that president obama has never done. it s something no president has ever done. but what does this mean for democrats down-ticket in this election cycle and in election cycles to come? is this a good answer which republicans did so effectively after president obama was first elected in 2008? how effective will this be? joining us now, steve kornacki, host of the 4:00 p.m. hour here on msnbc and an all-around smart man. how you doing? president obama is am i right to say that president obama is doing something that presidents otherwise haven t done? we ve never seen this kind of an effort systematically. yeah. we ve entered into a new era. it s on people s radar in a way it hasn t been before. it s a strategy and on the minds of democrats and they feel they need to do something. there s a structural component of this, too, where republicans can come up with a plan they came up with and they are sort of running downhill. they are at an advantage when you start talking about redistricting, when you start talking about congressional district lines or state legislative lines. this is the legacy of the obama era, how the two political coalitions have evolved. the democratic coalition right now probably has the numbers to win a national election. you talk about it all the time. it s young people, single women in particular, nonwhite voters, white collared professionals. those people more and more ever are packed more and more tightly into cities in metropolitan areas. the geographic reach, if you re talking about square miles, if you re talking about land mass, area, the geographic reach arguably has never been smaller. so the numbers are there but they are increasingly packed into smaller and smaller really into smaller numbers of districts. uh-huh. it s much easier, if you re a republican and want to draw lines to give yourself control of the state legislature or congressional map, it s much easier to do that because you don t have your voters aren t in these rural areas, you might not have 90% but you ve got 60%. democrats are sitting on 90% in a lot of here s the stat that i think explains the evolution of politics better than anything else. go back to 1988. michael dukakis got wiped out in a landslide loss. a solved victory for barack obama. he wins 690 counties. the gentlemen graphic share shrinks that much that in a big win they lost ground. if em democrats don t want to concede, that geographic is destiny. if they want to roll that stone up that hill, is this the way to do it, to try to be strategic about winnable seats, to try to flip legislatures in a way that s advantageous? absolutely. it s a longer-term question and the best news for democrats on that front is, look, in 2010, which is the legislatures that were seated is a result of the 2010 election. it was an off-year election and a mid term election with a democratic president. this is a democratic president. that recipe is the best thing republicans could ever hope for. . the next time that s going to happen, 2020, not a mid-term year. they have maybe more of an opportunity in 2020 than in 2010. and maybe by starting it in 2016 they ll get their training wheels on. exactly. lots more to come, stay with us. and i could take him behind the gym, that s what i wish. i westeish we were in high sl and i could take him behind the gym. apology presumably coming from the vice president s office in three, two let s check it. for saying on friday that he wishes he could take donald trump out behind the gym and teach him a lesson, joe biden would soon issue an apology. was that true or was that false? very false. not only did vice president joe biden not apologize for saying that, he said it again today in toledo, ohio. i ll get myself in trouble and say something like i d like to take him behind the gym if i were in high school. all kiddin aside, wouldn t you? i mean, for real. can you imagine a guy in the locker room talking that way and your sister s out there watching the game? not a joke. if i were in high school. i want to make it clear. i understand what assault is. i m not in high school. if i were in high school. i ued to be, i used to have a temper in high school. i don t have a temper anymore. i don t ever, nothing ever bother the me. look, folks. i get it, no. no. vice president clearly working it today, restraining himself, having a little fun, but in no way apologizing for saying that he wants to take donald trump behind the gym to teach him a lesson. our playfully pugilistic vice president. i was very wrong about that. we don t know who the next vice president will be. but tomorrow night we will have a chance on this show to get a really close look at the leading contender. democratic vice president nominee tim kaine will be joining us exclusively here in studio. senator kae eoe eor kaine has b before, but we ve not talked to him since he s running for vp. i m very much looking forward to that. that s tomorrow night. stay with us. using 60,000 ps fr my cse ink card i bought all the framework. wire.. and ts a face. no one wilforget. learn more at chase.com/in no one wilforget. esurance does auto insurance a smdiscnt.. they offer a claime beuse ferivers cost less to iure, which saves mey. and when they save, you save. th s auto home inscefor the mod. esurance, an allstate company. ance does auto insurance a smarter way. like tir photoims ol. hpsete your claim quy, whh sas timewhh ves money.d when they save, you sav. that suto and home insuran r thmodern world. esurance, an allstate company. ick or cal from the creatve galaxy in my idea box would yohelp me make a each one of our journeys eeps us youn y, i have an idea! wear: go be amazngder. amazing! announcer: give your caboard box another life. trust number oneoctor recommended lcolax constipated? use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for reef in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard odulcolax, desied for dependable rie we ve been keeping track here at the show of newspaper endorsements in the presidential race. it s been a weird year for that. the names listed on the left are a selection of hillary clinton s formal daily newspaper endorsements. she has a lot of them. the last time we reported on trump endorsements, he had three, one each from tiny papers in santa barbara, california, waxahachie daily light in texas. you guys have been super helpful at tracking these endorsements, particularly, when they re really tiny papers. send us tips, please. it s been very helpful. tonight thanks to you guys we can add the times gazette. there s also for the first time, a big one. shelton adeleson, a big league republican donor, funded the gingrich campaign all by himself in 2012. this winter, when a paper got a mystery owner, it was the las vegas review journal s own staff who was forced to ferret out their own owner. that was sheldon adeleson. it s not at all weird for super rich people to give money to political candidates nor weird for them to buy newspapers. it was weird that he tried to buy and run a newspaper anonymously, but his reporting staff caught him. he went into this election cycle planning to donate $100 million