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>> senior officials telling me that bolton is actually despite the criticism from the president himself is closer to where the president stands particularly on the north korean policy and that it is the state department in particular from top negotiators there who's talking about a step by step process which is not what the president envisions with kim jong-un. >> well, yeah, that's interesting. there has certainly been a lot of reports of divides between national security adviser and the president big hot button issues. about what iran said today as it puts pressure not only on the white hous...

Nuclear freeze as opposed to what they have asked for before, which is complete denuclearization and then they would consider easing some of the sanctions on them. this would be more of a step-by-step process. it would tacitly accept north korea korea. they've gone for freezes of nuclear tests in the past, there has been varying degrees of success but all of those deals have eventually fallen down. we also understand from "the new york times" article that the u.s. administration might be considering the deal that was discussed in hanoi back in february. this was -- north korea would give up it...

With reagan walking away from gorbachev. maria: what are you going to look at in terms of catalyst, in terms of where we are, in terms of the denuclearization going forward? >> first of all they haven't been testing long-term missiles anymore. that's a safer place to be. maria: okay. >> they are economically in a tougher position. the president had shown them that he's willing to go further than others. you have to build that trust. that takes time. i think these two men have built this trust that could make a stronger decision together. so it's going to be -- have to be probably in a phase, i...

The moment that turned the tables just like in iceland with reagan walking right. >> will you look at in terms of catalysts, where we are the denuclearization going forward? >> they haven't been testing long-term missiles anymore. that's a safer place. the are economically a cover position. president showed him he's willing to step across, willing to go further than others. you got to build that f trust ad that takes time. i think these two men build this trust that can make us stronger decision together. it's probably going to be a gradual step-by-step process but to restart it, to be in doub...

Denuclearization because we all know there is no commonly agreed understanding and definition between the u.s. and north korea of what to do you know if you research actually means and how it is basically this objective should be achieved in the sense of a road map there is no common understanding and divisions are pretty far away from each other so for one it will be to get the chinese support for their process or understanding of denuclearization the step by step process in which sanctions relief or at least partial sanctions relief are. an important objective for the north koreans you menti...