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apartments, landscape designers and you can go through a process of six months to do the construction documents. then you go through the process of submitting the building -- [speaker not understood] building department which takes another nine months and you're paying the fees for all that. and it would be just infinitely easier to have the action tied to the first approval and not at the end. there's no reason to spend all that money and have the building department clog up the line if the ceqa appeal is still waiting to be judged upon or waiting to be brought up. and finally, i do...

will result in one that violates the law through serial permits or outrageous section. and please do not confuse the rights of appeal of a building permit with the rights of appeal of a ceqa decision. they address different public concerns. please let us all have a chance to hear and consider supervisor kim's legislation and do not vote on this today. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. good afternoon. edward mottser, [speaker not understood]. we urge continuation of the vote on the wiener amendment here today. i would like focus my discussion specifically on 31.16, the automati...

the fact of the matter is the planning department really needs the public's help and that's one of the beauties of preserving ceqa the way it is with the long-timelines, with the multiple opportunities to participate. we are actually helping the planners as we are helping the supervisor pass this legislation. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. hello, supervisors. my name is michelle meyers. i am the director of the san francisco bay capture the sierra club. first, i want to thank supervisor jane kim for a thoughtful process in listening to community stakeholders which include 3...

supervisors, david oz good, head of the rincon tenants association, a member of the rincon [speaker not understood] of south beach cmc and vice-chair mayor brown's neighborhood advisory committee. i ask that you continue the matter. this matter is obviously very controversial and there is a thoughtful alternative from supervisor kim on the table. this needs to be -- >> i'm sorry, hold on one second. can you stop his clock? we've had these sound issues all day. is there a problem with the mic? >> [inaudible]. >> okay, why don't we start again and hopefully it won't have static any mor...