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And talking about mitt romney and what his career has entailed and what his positions are, that it really has actually moved the needle there in a compelling way. >> steve, a lot of photo ops have a certain amount of phoneyness in them, but paul ryan going to the soup kitchen thing, they don't usually back fire that bad. rush limbaugh could have told them because he doesn't want them to disown that 47% comment. >> there are a lot of people who agreed with him when he made the comments about the 47%. so he's got to be very careful about -- i think -- it seems like the tendency is to just apolog...

Is where he is now. and so hopefully we'll see the better, you know, the better obama come out tomorrow night. >> you know, you've been in the audition room a lot in your life. >> yes. >> but it's been hundreds of years since you were on the auditioning side of the audition room. i just want to tell you it's gone so well. >> hundreds of years. >> that we're going to bring you back later in the show for another. >> really? you mean i passed the audition. >> we need you back. >> thank you. >> krystal beel and steve kernake, thank you for joining us. coming up, bill clinton's roll in the campaign...

Well for democrats where they didn't expect it. >> yeah, still looking strong for the senate. i think virginia will be one that as goes the presidential race so goes the senate. overall it looks like democrats have a good chance to hold the senate. >> do you know why president obama underperformed according to some people in the first debate? >> this guy right here. he should have been in debate prep. he should have been directing the reaction shot. >> yes. i mean, gore was with that and the sighing with that and president obama was looking at his notes, didn't seem to be engaged and i agree w...

out. my apologies sir. i am usually much better behaved than that. and editor and publisher of "the nation" and the editor of "the change i believe in." steve is back. political writer for "salon.com. our "starting point" this morning is the national polls and the polls show rick santorum is surging. up by double dinlg jimts. sometimes we say surge and it's not really a surge but i think this time it's fair to say surge. nine months before the election democrats are going on the attack. there are plans to hit both now rick santorum and mitt romney and there's a new e-mail on the de...