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Suggested getting rid of the previous question motion, which allowed senators or house members currently to cut debate with a simple majority. and so, you know, in a lot of ways, i think, you know, there's a lot of misinformation about what went on, what the founders intended. they intended for a lot of deliberation, for consideration, but they did not intend, i believe, for stone walling. >> really quickly, professor, how do you counter the argument made by some republicans that -- or at least some critics of the filibuster who say that if the democrats do away with it now, republicans will c...

For this. how important is it he is held accountable, do you think? >> it's important he's held accountable because it's interesting. he has the worst case of everyone here. he's not -- again, he wasn't a lawyer. he doesn't have executive privilege. didn't work in the white house at the time. he's a guy claiming because he talked to donald trump one day somehow he's immunized or insulated from ever having to testify and that's nonsense. it clear that the committee very quickly, very early on is taking a stand and making a statement if you defy subpoenas and violate congress you go to jail and ...

One he says is off limits when it comes to who could be subpoenas that including the former guy. is this a race against time given the level of stone walling that they're getting? >> yeah, look, if they're going to subpoena the president they would be wise to do it soon because it's going to end up in the courts. don, two things can be true at the same time. number one, the president does have a history of running the clock out on things and sort of frivolous litigation but as a former president of the united states has privilege claims that will end up in court. this will be litigated for a l...

And will write back later. that could be engaging. so we don't know how serious the engagement is, but the play by these officials seems to be that they're afraid of crossing the former president. their boss. they want to stay in trump's good graces. he has made it clear he doesn't want them cooperating with this committee. he doesn't want them speaking to investigators, sharing documentation or their accounts of what they experienced that day at the president's side so, that appears to be why they're stone walling. of course, bannon is taking it further by saying he won't even communicate wit...

Realtime. donald trump still trying to sell his big lie that the 2020 election was somehow stolen from him thousand he was defeated by joe biden. it's not just his rabid supporters going along with this lie, it's also top establishment republicans. seven-term senator chuck grassley standing side by side with the losing ex-president on stage at a des moines rally on saturday. >> and trump's former chief strategist steve bannon is defying the house select committee investigating the january 6th election. he says he won't cooperate. just how aggressive will the committee be in his search for the ...