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figure joseph to store grain. that's been teased bi people including donald trump who considers himself an expert on how to build things. >> i hope everything is okay with ben. he's having a hard time. the pyramids are solid structures. you can't put grain in them because they are solid structures other than a little thing for the pharoahs in the bottom as you understand. they don't have beams going across connecting and big holle low spaces underneath. they are solid. i don't get that one. >> perhaps the most credible fact checkers are the egyptian antiquity officials who gathered to discuss thermal scans of the pyramids. an associated press reporter took the opportunity to ask the egyptian antiquities minister for a response to carson's theory. the reporter got one, sort of. quote, does heaven deserve a response?
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but the reality of this is, it really kind of goes to this whole phenomenon with carson right now is that yeah, he doesn't have all that experience. that's a good thing in the eyes of a lot of voters. he's not propounding all these policy positions. that's a good thing too. there's an innate trust that they have in him that he is going to be different somehow. now, what that ultimately is we don't know, and we certainly don't know how it gets defined, which is the scary part. but that's where a lot of the voters are right now. they look at the media, they look at the political class, the professional political class, and they shake their head in disgust. so a trump and a carson is a safe harbor for them right now. >> and mckay, i mean, the one thought i had watching this news cycle play out, and starting with the pyramids news cycle, which i didn't think we'd have a pyramids news cycle -- i don't frankly care one way or the other. it does seem ridiculous to say they were built to store grain.
it does seem ridiculous to say they were built to store grain. >> have trump explain pyramids. >> i'm a builder. that's not what you -- but i couldn't watch that news cycle and think anything than if i'm a carson fan this makes me like him all the more. he's got the right enemies. >> and the thing that illustrates that is that up until that story broke that day donald trump was actually going after carson very aggressively on twitter. he'd been tweeting nonstop about oh, well, he says this about how he stabbed his friend but that story's falling apart. he tweeted like several tweets and was going after carson. and then as soon as it turned and it was fascinating to watch the evolution because it happened fast. when the west point story first broke, a lot of carson fans i saw online were like oh, this is bad. and then it very quickly turned into another hit piece by the mainstream media. and once trump saw that he backs off. >> let me briefly interject that in his book he said he was offered a scholarship to west point which he declined.
really kind of goes to this whole phenomenon with carson right now is that, yeah, he doesn't have all that experience. that's a good thing in the eyes of a lot of voters. he's not propounding all these policy positions. that's a good thing, too. there's an innate trust that they have in him that he is going to be different somehow. now, what that ultimately is we don't know, and we certainly don't know how it gets defined, which is the scary part. but that's where a lot of the voters are right now. they look at the media, they look at the political class, the professional political class, and they shake their head in disgust. so a trump and a carson is a safe harbor for them right now. >> and, mckay, i mean, the one thought i had watching this news cycle play out and starting with the pyramids news cycle, which i didn't think we'd have a pyramids news cycle -- i don't frankly care one way or the other. it does seem ridiculous to say they were built to store grain. >> have trump explain pyramids. what they are.
competitive are extremely premature. one of the top carson statements is about how he made statements about how joseph built the pyramids to store grain. carson says things like this totally divorced from historic reality that aren't part of the christian religious tradition and aren't a big part of what his church actually teaches as dogma. he just says this stuff. it's baffling and perplexing and could make him a tough sell. >> you might expect carson to face questions over his past in tuesday's debate. how might these questions, just the fact they're being raised, hurt his credibility. one of his strengths has been it's the biography and seeming trustworthiness. and competency as a physician, a neurosurgeon. >> the issue for carson, frankly because it's such a crowded field, he has to find a way to break out of the original base he has. we've seen him rise some in the polls. still that ceiling for him and trump where neither of them has
when you are running for president you have to take a position on about a thousand issues and the egyptian pyramids are not usually one of them. but ben carson is defending his theory on the pyramids and what they were used for. let's talk to an egyptologist. i don't know if i have ever heard of an egyptologist. ben carson has a theory that the pyramids were built to store grain. this is from 1998. >> my own personal theory is that joseph built the pyramids in order to store grain. but it would have to be