it does seem ridiculous to say they were built to store grain. >> have trump explain pyramids. >> i'm a builder. that's not what you -- but i couldn't watch that news cycle and think anything than if i'm a carson fan this makes me like him all the more. he's got the right enemies. >> and the thing that illustrates that is that up until that story broke that day donald trump was actually going after carson very aggressively on twitter. he'd been tweeting nonstop about oh, well, he says this about how he stabbed his friend but that story's falling apart. he tweeted like several tweets and was going after carson. and then as soon as it turned and it was fascinating to watch the evolution because it happened fast. when the west point story first broke, a lot of carson fans i saw online were like oh, this is bad. and then it very quickly turned into another hit piece by the mainstream media. and once trump saw that he backs off. >> let me briefly interject that in his book he said he was offered a scholarship to west point which he declined.