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[inaudible conversations] welcome to the concluding day of the symposium on the future of Public Research universities. Before i introduce the panel, just remind you all as you may see, we are being filmed for cspan. When we get to the q a portion today, it is important to use the microphone and he will do better than i will. I should turn it up. Thank you for your interest. I would like to introduce the topic that we will focus on this morning. Then i will turn it over to a discussion with our panelists and get you involved. We are talking right now about Research Scholarships and the arts. A...

To have a lot of access to members. So i looked at newspaper articles, internet services, all kinds of Public Record documents. I interviewed a couple of them, but after a while i decided to stay away from the interview perspective and i really tried to take the view of ion the outsider. If somebody wanted to find out about numbers of congress in the outside and obviously im an overly interested outsider so im not the typical outsider, but if somebody wanted to find out about members, what would they have to do to do that . Theres an amazing amount of Public Records sources out there. You can ...