University of california, what we have said is, look, our police officers, their focus should be on campus safety. that's what we pay them to do. that's what their focus ought to be. and not on being adjunct immigration officers. we've been very clear about that. >> and campuses across the country, the whole notion, if the president-elect decides to, sort of go full speed against these sanctuary cities, the university of california, is that going to be a sanctuary campus? all of your various campuses? what are you hearing about that? >> no. i think that for the university of california, use of...