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appreciated one of the guests you had on making this point about how they thought that the case of 303 creative would be narrowly defined. and i was in agreement with you that i hope that is the case because i think a lot of people have been looking at that and seeing it as opening the floodgates to possible discrimination against lgbtq members for whatever reason, you know, services, or free speech. but at the end of the day, it has created the lgbtq community or made them feel like second class citizens in this country. >> absolutely. i was also, you know, glad to hear it presented...

how they thought that the case of 303 creative would be narrowly defined. and i was in agreement with you that i hope that is the case because i think a lot of people have been looking at that and seeing it as opening the floodgates to possible discrimination against lgbtq members for whatever reason, you know, services, or free speech. but at the end of the day, it has created the lgbtq community or made them feel like second class citizens in this country. >> absolutely. i was also, you know, glad to hear it presented in that way that perhaps, it's a lot more-limited, and it can be...

that i hope that is the case because i think a lot of people have been looking at that and seeing it as opening the floodgates to possible discrimination against lgbtq members for whatever reason, you know, services, or free speech. but at the end of the day, it has created the lgbtq community or made them feel like second class citizens in this country. >> absolutely. i was also, you know, glad to hear it presented in that way that perhaps, it's a lot more -limited, and it can be interpreted by other courts as well in a lot more limiting way. so, let's hope -- >> let's hope, and let...

it's the harshest sentence handed down for involvement in the january 6th attack on the capitol. the leader of the oath keepers just told he'll serve 18 years in prison, and the judge didn't mince words. there is one week to go until the nation potentially defaults on its debt, and still no deal. lawmakers are huddling in the capitol, trying to hammer out a last-minute agreement. no, that's not what is happening. most of them are headed home for a long holiday weekend. and not before adding some last-minute demands that could complicate the entire process. we'll break down what the...

culpability for the first time. in this new legally binding document cites evidence to show why trump must, they say, legally cooperate. setting deadlines for evidence, november 4th. deadlines for testifying, november 14th. and this new material puts trump at the center of the coup plot to overturn the election. the committee writing that he maliciously disseminated false allegations of voter fraud, corrupted the justice department, ran the effort to transmit false electoral certificates, that may yet yield more indictments. it's basically saying he committed crimes, and pressured pe...