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Out, and came back in. it's not over for desantis. he has a lot of time to prove the voters that he is the right person for the gop nomination. i don't think it's over yet. a quick response from you, francis. do you think he can close the gap? i would agree with debbie. with ron, you get the same conservative thinking and i policies without the baggage. what about you, debbie? who do you think potentially could catch up with trump? honestly, the entire field of republican candidates are all extreme. they all subscribe to the same policies that would crack down on diversity and education, that ...

They all subscribe to the same policies that would crack down on diversity and education, that would go backwards when it comes to trying to make sure that we can save social security and medicare, and preserve it as a safety net for our seniors. in florida, that's a huge deal. ron desantis took the position that it is private... turn medicare into a voucher system. the whole field has really walked on that kind of extremism, so i don't know if it matters who the nominee is. americans will embrace joe biden because he has their back, he's brought us out of covid, restriction on drug costs, and...

Getting a hand on the books, and unfortunately, we're seeing the bands intensify and be enabled by things like desantis's legislation. even though it's not supposed to apply to libraries. which should have even broader discretion for young people to read what they want. >> i hope that these interviews, this interview, and the ones i do with you last year, become archived somewhere and our antiques that we all look back and say, what was this band book nonsense? but for the moment, we're in, and i appreciate both being in it. it's going to see about again, thank you for being with me, george m....

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