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Republican party and all of these states has been to subvert the democratic process, over and over again. to bill wall upon wall a puddle. right? because they've already insulated themselves through gerrymandering of voter suppression. now they're adding more voter suppression. and then they're adding on top of that, being able to overturn elections. so at every step of the process, they have undermine democracy. and this feedback loop, where one anti-democratic facet then intrenches another anti democratic facet of the system. >> anne-marie slaughter, ari berman, that was excellent. thank you...

Strategist. the guy who got arrested and then got pardoned, so now he's back on his podcast. breaking the legitimacy of our elections breaks everything else. that is why this become such a central. point it is why people like steve bannon have been stoking the idea that the litmus test, the thing that measures fidelity to the government, is signing up for this mass delusion. pursuing it through these toxic needs. the big lie. it fundamentally undermines the legitimacy of american self governance. this was the attack on democracy is all about. and is going to cause levels of damage and destruct...

And persuade a majority to get things done or whether he saying the filibuster has rented the country ungovernable. it was a bit ambiguous between the two. >> obama yields in paradoxes. the big part of that interview is his willingness to say something is true, and the opposite is true. obama has evolved tremendously on the filibuster. i had this argument during his presidency he was not able to give it up then. he said clearly and if the filibuster is getting in the way in of democracy. -- given or there is a lot of advice on democrats in a conversation, what don't you say? what do you do to ...

You are seeing this now as a cause that various republican state legislatures are taking up. >> the states have become the republican party laboratories for subverting democracy. in places like wisconsin and michigan because elections are predetermined. then you put the voter suppression on top of that. the overriding goal has been to subvert the democratic process over and over and over and to bill wall upon wall upon wall, chris. they already insulated themselves through gerrymandering and voter suppression and now they are adding more voter suppression and on top of that overturning electio...

We're probably going to hit 70% of adults in vaccination. we have pushed the curve down, the company is opening up and here's the results from that. the impact of the covid relief bill and the american rescue plan act so the last two bills that got passed. food insufficiency down 40%, financial instability down 45%. reported adverse mental health symptoms down 20%. this is from surveys of people who got this relief. it's like, look, if you get the 50 votes to pass your agenda, you can do a lot of good. >> that's right. actually, no offense, i disagree with ezra on this one. i do think the fili...