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Did he meagerly cover his back side. dan scavino is confirming it and i'm sure he has a lot more information donald trump doesn't want him to tell. >> jim -- >> go ahead. >> -- i agree with everything that adam said, and he's got an extraordinary perspective on this. i think what may turn out to be the most important question in this campaign is does that trial move forward during this campaign year or is the president -- former president successful in deferring it until after the election? because the last thing he wants is to see dan scavino and mark meadows and others on the stand testifyin...

January 19th deadline. this agreement was struck by house speaker mike johnson and senate majority leader chuck schumer. the two men agreeing to the top line spending numbers totaling about $1.59 trillion for the next fiscal year. the breakdown of that includes $886 billion for defense spending and $704 billion for nondefense spending. there is also another about $70 billion that is part of a side deal that would include additional funding for nondefense issues. now these numbers track very closely with what president biden and house -- then house speaker kevin mccarthy agreed to last spring. ...

Are too cowardly to go out and tell the truth. i think that's where we are. look, have no doubt, if we quantum leaped ten years forward now, there would be nobody that believes it's the fbi. i think the people that are answering that to the poll today would be ashamed to admit they ever believed that. i think we win in the end but it's going to be a messy year. >> president obama has been very worried about the siloing of americans and people being caught in their own disinformation bubbles and so on. according to the washington post, president obama went to president biden and encouraged him ...

My problem is we have not been able to break through that maga wall in order to get to people exactly what this president has done. >> david, we have not been able to get through the maga wall. that is what james clyburn said there. what do you think? >> well, look, i think that there's been widespread concern about the sort of pace and urgency of the -- of the biden campaign and the willingness to every day take on trump, draw the contrast, not just on this issue, not just on the democracy issue but on economic issues that are important to middle class americans and other issues on which bide...

What donald trump that day, what he didn't do yet so many people have bought into this lie. what happened? >> so it's a couple things. first off, none of their kids are going to believe this. this is an emotional reaction. i think some of those respondents say, yes, it was the fbi. it's a tribal tattoo. that's what you have to say. the failure is in two big areas. number one, fox news and other news organizations like that that aren't telling the truth, that are allowing conspiracies to come on television. the other big failure is leaders in the republican party. everybody underneath the presi...