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Across the country, folks tend to have opinion of them. but what we're seeing now is people like kamala harris introducing herself to voters for the first time. and on that stage that's exactly what she did. >> the issue behind that exchange she had with the former vice president on stage, it was busing, and it brought back the politics of the 1970s, the 1980s in a lot of ways. and one of the questions that emerged from that is, is kamala harris calling for a return to the busing that we saw in the '70s and '80s. as she told my colleague vaughn hillyard yesterday, she does support busing. it s...

That our education system is thoroughly integrated should be a goal for everyone. and in many places busing is essential to making that happen. so, you know, within that -- that framework, absolutely, i would support busing. >> so you do support busing in the context of desegregation, right? >> exactly. i think that -- >> okay. >> -- you need to make -- be very clear on what your goals are and how you're going to get there. >> now, we're a couple days out from the debates. the conversation, though, is largely focused on this issue and comments from the past, rath thae rather than focuses on a ...

From the 1970s. it wasn't clear to me as i listened to him where he stands on the issue of busing today. i think it is a conversation that's happening today. senator kamala harris says she supports busing today. i just spoke with presidential candidate john hickenlooper who says he, too, would support busing today to deal with the issues of segregation or resegregation that bernie sanders said this morning. he, too, says busing should be an option that's on the table in today -- >> i want to be clear -- >> in 2019. so does vice president joe biden believe busing should be a potential solution ...