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Offended statements, bebut not with my approval. in 2008, president bush was there. in fact, he was seated next to vladimir putin when it became clear that russia had invaded georgia. and i mentioned the human rights record, not as often as i would have liked. networks tend to be timid about these things and i put the question to president bush when i was able to interview him. did the same thing about putin and russia when sochi hosted the olympics. here is china hosting an olympics again, what, a decade and a half after -- >> nothing has changed. >> one of the big questions now that you can'...

The first time. he's also the author of "here, right matters, an american story. why is ukraine so important to putin." that's my question, colonel vindman. i want to know why is there such a fascination on the part of vladimir putin with ukraine. >> well, there's many different reasons. the first one is ukraine is central to russia's conception of itself as a great power. it believes ukraine is its right by history, and only as a freak of history with the collapse of the soviet union did the worst case unfold. russia losing ukraine. the heart of the empire. so that's part of the story. but th...

It might begin with cutting the feed if they're displeased. it also could begin with making life difficult for anyone up and down the ladder of the nbc hierarchy. >> it just feels half-assed to be. either they're deserving of the boycotts and athletes don't go, or don't even play this card. you know i love having you here. make sure you vote at smerconish.com on this survaive question. okay. >> you know i live on the internet. >> reach out, continue to reach out via social media, and i'll report back as to what you're saying as the program progresses. >> ahead, controversy over, listen to this...

Sovereignty. does that 2020 was decided by women? okay. i like your handle. does that include the commitment of american troops if it comes to that? i appreciated having admiral staff formally the supreme ally commander for nato and i said to him, what are the dynamics for the united states? of ukraine joining nato. ukraine wants to be in nato under president zelensky but once they're in, we're on the hook. think about that. what would be the sentiment of americans if all of a sudden, our men and women had to go and fight for ukraine. i'm raising the question and that's part of my anancestry. ...

>> i think this is part of his legacy. i think he's definitely firmed up his control. there are no real contestants for power there in the short term. he does eventually have to identify a successor. right now, the question is what is his legacy? is he the gathering of lands, is he the one rebuilding the russian empire? is he the one retaining ukraine in russia's orbit? he wants to do this. i think it's a coin flip of whether this becomes the largest war in europe since world war ii. >> that's a scary thought. >> the u.s. cannot be on the sidelines. we saw what happened the last time the u.s. ...