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>> right. >> i became -- i won't say mature because that actually was kind of delayed by the death of my father. by sort of kind of restarting at 10. but i had certainly a different point of view than the children around me. >> there's a writer, mary gordon, who wrote about "follow this girls." my mom quoted it to me all time. i think it applies to boys as well. i'll paraphrase. it's a fatherless child, all things is possible, nothing is safe. and i never really understood it when my mom would say it when i was young but i've come to understand it. >> all things are possible in both the positi...

Disappeared. i became -- i won't say mature because that actually was kind of delayed by the death of my father, by sort of just restarting at 10. but i had certainly a different point of view than the children around me. >> there's a writer, mary gordon who wrote about follow those girls and my mom use to quote it to me all the time and i think it applies to boys as well. it's a fatherless child thinks all things possible and nothing is safe. i never really understood it when my mom would say it when i was young but i've come to understand it -- >> all things are possible in both the positive...

Things that scared me most. like, i would take survival courses in the wilderness to know i could survive. >> i did not have that reaction. i read a lot of science fiction. that was my reaction. >> i have heard you say you do believe in, like, pushing toward things you are afraid of. you talked about standing in an elevator and making it -- and having an awkward experience intentionally. >> that's awkwardness. that's -- i suppose there's fear involved in that, but i -- so your dad dies and your brothers who are almost as big as your dad because they're yur your older brothers. they hung the mo...

That actually was kind of delayed by the death of my father. by sort of restarting at 10. but i had certainly a different point of view than the children around me. >> there is a writer mary gordon who wrote about fatherless girls. i think it applies -- my mom quote it all the time. it's a fatherless chide thinks all things possible and nothing is safe. and i never really understood when it my mom would say it. i come to understand it. >> all things are possible in the positive and negative. >> great things can happen. the phone can ring and your whole life can change for better or worse. but ...

I won't say mature. it was delayed by the death of my father, by restarting at 10. but i had a different point of view than the children around me. >> there was a writing, mary gordon, who writes about it. my mom used to quote to it me but i think it applies to boys as well. a fatherless child thinks all things possible and nothing is safe. and i never really understood it when i was young. but i've come to understand it. >> all things are possible in both the positive and negative. >> great things can happen. the phone can ring and your whole life can change for better or worse. but i became ...