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11:27 a.m. before the suspect entered the school, he immediately unleashed more than 100 rounds, shortly after that, three officers entered the school and two of them were immediately grazed by the gunman s bullets. john: according to texas dps, as many as 19 officer gathered in the hallway as of 12:03:00 p.m. no effort was made to breach the door of the classroom until 40 minutes later. law enforcement facing questions and criticism over the amount of time that passed before they stormed the classroom to stop the carnage. uvalde mayor will join us in the next hour, but we have team coverage this hour on all angles. karl rove will join us in moment. alicia is live in houston where the nra convention is being held. john: bill melugin, what a news conference that was. bill: yeah, john, that is an understatement. i think our jaws hit the floor as well, one of the big highlights we learned from the moment the shooter was first encountered by police in that school un ....
35 minutes to get that breach set up? bill: look, i don t. i ve been talking to some law enforcement sources, i know they were waiting for a small amount of time to get what i m told is a level four ballistic shield, the kind of shield that can stop a 223, an ar-15 round if that s the kind of ammo he was using, but only ten minutes or so. it does no the explain another 20, 30-minute gap to get the shield and breaching into the room. i cannot answer that question. your guess is as good as mine and we ll have to wait for more information to come out. that s exactly correct. vortac, the tactical team arrives at 12:15. 5 to 6 minutes later they get a shield and then 30 minutes, 29 minutes later at 12:50 they decide to make the breach. in between the 30-minute gap there were apparently more 911 ....
Situations before, law enforcement like to have these press conferences together to show a unified front, to show they are working together. we had texas dps and the fbi out here. unless i missed it, there was no uvalde police to answer questions about what happened and i find that to be quite notable. john: let me just go over one aspect of the timeline. we know the vortac team fro border patrol arrived at 12:15 at the school but did not go in until 35 minutes later to breach the door. and in the ensuing time, at 12:44, a student got the cell phone from a teacher, called 911 and begged 911 to send in the police. so there were kids who were still at risk inside the school calling 911 themselves and meantime the team is assembling, doing not sure what, before the breach. do we have any idea why it took ....
It s really quite breathtaking for the prosecutors in terms of this particular jury. the problem for the sussmann team, it s hard not to see the overwhelming evidence against their client. anita: yeah, it s funny how all those people ended up on the jury. but you know, i want to remind you i interviewed you last august about this trial when it came to light that john durham was moving forward with the grand jury investigation. at that time, i pulled the transcript today, you told me this is a chilling moment for people in the beltway. you basically said people were shaking in their boots. so other than sussmann, other people at high levels shaking in their boots over this? i won t deny knowledge or memory of my prior statement, that would be consistent with the trial but that does sound accurate and that s what happened. this trial really did prove embarrassing. whatever may happen with this jury with sussmann, i think the ....
Dps says it should not have been treated as a barricade, they should have treated it as an active shooter. no matter how you look at this, it s heart wrenching every way, and we had not known about the 911 calls today. today as they were waiting in the hallway for a tactical team to arrive, there were numerous 911 calls, not from teachers but students as well, please help, there are dead people here. some 911 calls had gunshots in the background of them. so, there was clearly activity still going on and there was just a decision made not to breach, to wait it out, and it was again, an hour and 15 minutes before that shooter was neutralized inside of that classroom, guys. anita: and bill, you know, during that hour and 15 minutes, we all saw the video of the parents gathered outside yelling at the police. begging them, begging them to try to go in and do something, or begging them to let them go ....