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hutchinson testifying that lead white house counsel pat cipollone warned of legal exposure if trump followed his supporters to the capitol. >> we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we let mat move happen. >> do you remember what crimes mr. scipollone was concerned about? >> we had conversations about potentially ubstrucking justice or defrauding the electoral count. >> hutchinson relaying a second hand account about a defiant trump who wanted to go to the capitol anyway, allegedly even attacking the leader of his secret service detail while in the presidential mot...

if there is anyone that could balance all of the tough and competing issues in a high stakes meeting in a region, it is president joe biden. >> and with that question and about that balance, especially given the murder of khashoggi and president biden has said i made it clear how i feel about that. but yet this visit is validating that there is a balance between strategic economic realities and moral issues. and at same time, it comes back to our dependence on foreign oil, does it not. there are other ways that we should be solving this problem, would you not agree? >> mika, i want t...

Congressman raskin on in the last hour and saying he doesn't know what the text messages, that we were deleted on the 5th and the 6th, given the testimony from cassidy hutchinson about what the secret service may have observed and experienced around president trump in that limousine, for example. >> pretty remarkable time. and those dates are suddenly gone. the secret service has come under real scrutiny here as the january 6 committee hearings continue. in part because of the that testimony from trump aide cassidy hutchinson who said she heard that the president, after his speech on the ellip...