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Same frustration that caused me, my coauthor, and so many others to look around and say what were doing isnt working. And people come at this from any position. 10 years ago,his first out of the National Debt crisis. Michael porter came to it out of my invitation but also because he has been doing work on Harvard Business school on our economic competitiveness and whether we are a country that can grow jobs and grow income levels. And other people come to it from specific policy angles, which is that every policy organization has begun to come to the communication realization that they may hav...

Katherine first, im seeing the same frustration that caused me, my coauthor, and so many others to look around and say what were doing isnt working. And people come at this from any position. So i came to this 10 years ago, first out of the National Debt crisis. Michael porter came to it out of my invitation but also because he has been doing work on Harvard Business school on our economic competitiveness and whether we are a country that can grow jobs and grow income levels. And other people come to it from specific policy angles, which is that every policy organization has begun to come to t...

Susan katherine gehl, in your notebook, you write the american political system has become the cause of our decline in the barrier to address the problems it exists to solve. When you look at america today, what are you seeing . Katherine first, im seeing the same frustration that caused me, my coauthor, and so many others to look around and say what were doing isnt working. And people come at this from any position. So i came to this 10 years ago, first out of the National Debt crisis. Michael porter came to it out of my invitation but also because he was doing work at Harvard Business school...

At cspan. Org coronavirus. Host joining us on the communicators is Andrew Marantz, a writer for the new yorker magazine, also the author of the book antisocial online extremists, technoutopians, and the hijacking of the american conversation. Andrew marantz, thanks for joining us try to thanks for having me. Host if i understand correctly the book grew and reporting you do for the new yorker. Can you explain that work and how it led to the genesis of the book . Guest yes. Around 2014, 2015 i was writing for the new yorker and its magazine that allows people to kind of rome and the generalists ...

Generalists and clever with it the fight interesting stories. Something outside in interesting at the time was what the internet was doing to us as a society in terms of our information streams. It wasnt political in my mind at that time. It was sort of what happens when the trusted systems of information breakdown and people no longer know whats true of whats important versus irrelevant or how to spend their time. I was looking at this as a tech story, as the business story. I was looking at clickbait farms and had to get you to click on things and waste your time and have make money from tha...