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tell you new zealand or alpine switzerland. those are low density places. why do they buy large boats? the same reason. the ocean isn't crowded the pure there was no one else there. uncrowded is good. yellowstone is beautiful because it is empty. you don't have to be rich to understand this. it is all obvious. only in a moment like this one with megaphones speaking exclusively with lies would we be reminded of this. bigger is not always better. in fact, most of the time it is worse. have you driven around your country recently? you may notice there are fewer and fewer beautiful things in america. you are not imagining that. it is real. dollar stores are everywhere. the question is why is this happening. the people in charge have no taste. they can acquire that they can't discern. for some reason, we put private equity firms in charge of fedex. accountants are doing the exterior design.
deaths. and i think one of the things that we've seen throughout the two years, that is maybe even more so now is the disinformation, the frank, lies, the malicious information that is being put out that is really helping to continue the pandemic instead of helping our efforts to really sue invesppress it. >> it is perplexing why people can't discern truth from figures. but you're right, it only seems to be growing. and there are a lot of stories about more varnts to come. variants to come. is that something that we need to worry about? >> i think as we have high numbers of people who are not vaccinated, we'll continue to see the variants develop. whether they will be worse, whether they will be more lethal, whether they will be more infectious, we can't predict. what we have to understand is that while cases are dropping, we are not really through the surge yet.
instructions to republican-led state governments that they should falsify election results in this state. they should throw out election recalls with the intramotter and gravitas and authority. first in the states, second at the u.s. justice department. and then there was the third level which was the pressure on the vice president. it put enormous pressure on vice president mike pence to throw the count. to sabotage the actual count of the electoral votes. refuse to count the real electors of republicans in states where the vote was contested. any state they sent in forged electors against the real ones, that's enough of a dispute in the states that you can't discern who the real electors are. so for that state, you shouldn't have the state counted at all. maybe there should be a delay. or put off the inauguration a
is we are empowered to come up with legislative solutions to protect the country going forward and a part of reason of being. if we can't discern the roles and where the funding came from, why the security wasn't as it should be on that day, it is hard to prescribe legislative remedies how to protect the capitol and the government going forward. so the arguments are meritless and what the former president want it is hear. >> are you worried about political will? yesterday condaleesa rice said the country needs to move on. when you combine those comments and trump enthusiasts, what do you think republicans could do here? >> there's so much we don't know about particularly the former president's role on january 6. we know that he was involved in inciting the insurrection but how much he knew about the propensity of violence that day and part of the plan for that day, we owe it to the country to
and we are going to stand up -- the simple fact is we need to articulate a standard of speech. we need to be able to say some things are true, some things are false, some things are good, some things are bad. free speech in the abstract means absolutely nothing to people who have nothing to say and so the argument i make in "speechless" is conservatives need to be a lot clearer about enforcing a standard saying no, we are actually going to stand for something here. if we really can't discern between drag queen story hour and going to church on sunday, if we really can't discern between a private company pursuing its business and three dudes in silicon valley controlling our speech, then we have given up the capacity for self-government, which requires our faculties of reason, or moral conscience and the political power and the courage to wield that political power when people give it to us. >> tucker: yeah, we need some fine motor skills here making subtle distinctions is important. by the way, speaking words, hipster rasputin is my new favorite phrase, which i plan to steal from you. i appreciate you coming on
and we are going to stand up -- the simple fact is we need o to articulate a standard of speech. we need to be able to say some things are true, some things are false, some things are good, some things are bad. free speech in the abstract means absolutely nothing to people who have nothing to say and so the argument i makeee in "speechless" is conservatives need to be aan lot clearer about enforcing a standard saying no, we are actually going to stand for something here. if we really can't discern between drag queen story hour and going to church on sunday, if we really can't discern between a private company pursuing its business and three dudes in silicon valley controlling our speech, then we have given up the capacity for self-government, which requires our faculties of reason, or moral conscience and the political power and the courage to wield that political power when people give it to us. >> tucker: yeah, we need some fine motor skills here making subtle distinctions is important. by the way,s speaking words, hipster rasputin is my new favorite phrase, which i plan to steal from you. i appreciate you coming on tonight, congrats on the book.
at rod rosenstein's spenexpenset more specifically than that, i can't discern. >> many people can't discern. as we have been watching the developments as of late, there's been multiple sourcing for a lot of the reports that we have been discussing. i wanted to also while we have you here, jack, get your reflection on the reversal on release of certain classified documents. i met with the doj concerning declassification of various unredacted documents, this is what the president said. they agreed to release them, they may have a perceived negative impact on the russia probe. goes on to say more in this reversal explanation. so jack, what do you think happened. who is the fail-safe, what stopped the release of the documents? >> i think in the first place my concern is i'm always concerned about the knee jerk reaction of the president himself. when you talk about releasing
simultaneously. you have visitors. this is after all, august. you people visiting the nation's capital. this is international news. people just wanting to see what's happening. who are not there with any skin in the game if you will. how does that affect what police need to do in terms of keeping not only the peace keeping people protected? >> that is where it becomes rather difficult for the authorities. they can't discern demonstrators from individuals who are just there on vacation perhaps in washington d.c.. and want to see what is going on with the various demonstrations. as long as they can keep it peaceful, there's no teargas flying more canisters flying or having to take any action against either group, i think everyone will be safe. i thought by now because i leavelive here in the dc area.
telling about that clip? chris cuomo, he says his defense is -- he was talking about ms-13. that's not his defense, that's a fact, it's the truth. that's the truth that the media didn't report. but for chris cuomo to act like, how could this be? that's like saying i can't discern from the gambino crime family and chris cuomo, or any other italian-american. it's outrageous. and this is my biggest problem. as you said, you see nancy pelosi and chuck schumer and all these other people who are condemning remarks based on a lie, and now 24 hours later you would think you would see some corrections. the best they have is, even ms-13 deserves to not be dehumanized. if you can't call ms-13 members animals, if you can't call them out on repulsive behavior, you've surrendered your ability to make any moral judgments in our society. >> tucker: the first draft,
to engage in belief that barack obama was born in kenya. so her son can be president by sneaking back over here the craziest thing that makes no intern am logic and of course everything else, heidi, how do we deal with a president who can't discern realities? >> with almost 20 years in this business, this has never happened to me before, i actually had republican contacting me because they're concerned about what's going on with the presidents. with the tweets about going back to birtherrism, about retweeting the alt right anti-muslim hate groups, denying that that is his own voice they are saying they are concerned that this is a compulsion that he can't break, on addiction almost, to not only telling lies but if you look at the way he talks and continues