deaths. and i think one of the things that we've seen throughout the two years, that is maybe even more so now is the disinformation, the frank, lies, the malicious information that is being put out that is really helping to continue the pandemic instead of helping our efforts to really sue invesppress it. >> it is perplexing why people can't discern truth from figures. but you're right, it only seems to be growing. and there are a lot of stories about more varnts to come. variants to come. is that something that we need to worry about? >> i think as we have high numbers of people who are not vaccinated, we'll continue to see the variants develop. whether they will be worse, whether they will be more lethal, whether they will be more infectious, we can't predict. what we have to understand is that while cases are dropping, we are not really through the surge yet.