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So his cooperating with special counsel, that would be a huge leap forward. joining us, now michael schmidt, washington correspondent for the new york times. and one of the reporters who broke this story. michael, thank you so much for being with us tonight. talk me through the timeline here. what is it looking like? so, we know that in recent weeks, before the appointment of the special counsel, thomas windham, the lead investigator on the january 6th investigation. the one looking at whether trump broke the law when he and his allies tried to overturn the election reached down to pence s side to say that they wanted to talk to him. now, it will be many weeks if not months before the government hears from pence. subpoenaed. trump will try to assert his exe before where he has tried to use these cl top white house so far for trump, t a vice p questions of privilege tha former president is trying to assert, it will become a very formalized process. this is not just something where inv ....

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