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followers online, you can see there. and this is not just anybody talking, it is a trump ally, lawyer, and top republican on the senate judiciary committee, so he knows better than to just blithely talk up -- warn of violence and crime as retaliation of whatever happens in the criminal justice system, which no one knows what will happen. senator graham going further than most republican senators. lately many have been trying to duck attention over trump's secret document scandal. but what is different about graham? well, senator lindsey graham is also a witness and a potential partic...

Think you would hang your hat on as a credibility contest. now you want to take his word. i can't take mueller's word. you want to take corsi word. >> all these things should be tested. >> that's what we're doing right now. >> i certainly -- >> not the only forum, matt. >> if what the democrats got is manafort shared polling information with people that were loosely affiliated with russians, i think that clearly that is not going to result in impeachment. >> what would satisfy you? unless you had a picture of donald junior with putin on your lap. he wouldn't go under oath. >> that's not true. ...

>> paul manafort's lawyers never denied it. >> go and test those things. >> paul manafort never denied it. it's not about a felony or you're fine. you can do bad things that are not a crime and for you to be disinterested in that is silly. you care about things all the time -- >> i'm not saying we don't care about things that aren't crimes. >> he didn't even deny it. he didn't even deny giving it to him. >> that's because he was making a plea deal. as you -- >> which he then lied about. if he was going to lie about other things, why not lie about this? >> you have evidence on the record that t...

End, but few roads must be paid with money for walls along the southern border. >> a wall, and fans, whatever they want to call it. i will call it whatever they went. >> they supported physical barriers in the past. he says it's personal. >> as soon i said i want to build a wall, they were all against it. i'm like, take another example. take mueller. everybody hated -- they were calling for his resignation. they were calling for his firing, including schommer. including nancy pelosi. until i fired him. and once i fired him, everybody say, oh, why did you fire him? >> for the hundreds and thous...

We have any reason to doubt rod rosenstein's integrity in this, but what does that actually mean, appropriately? isn't it true that whitaker or barr could take mueller's report and put it in a drawer? >> yeah, they definitely play an important role here of oversight. and recusal is all about guaranteeing the appearances and public trust in justice and what's happening and independence and objectivity. so when you have someone like whitaker, who's been -- it's been recommended to that he ought to recuse, it isn't so much for having a direct conflict of interest, in that he has some monetary rel...