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presidential campaign sure was good while it lasted, and now he's getting buried a couple of months before he even announces. so trump turbo-charged by his indictment in the stormy daniels case has been rising in the polls, and desantis has been sinking. i've argued for many weeks now against my guests that desantis needed to respond to trump's assaults rather than largely ignore him because he's busy with the florida legislature. now that's becoming the media's conventional wisdom. throw in the journalists who say ron desantis lacks charisma, and you have a whole new landscape at le...

Government official to, in effect, declare war on a private company? >> look, there's a deep died within the conservative coalition right now about the approach people want to have toward, quote-unquote, woke corporatism which is the kind of thing that has really been infuriating to a lot of folks. ron desantis has taken the lead, i think, in having one level of response to that. it's not one that's been popular with the rest of the field, but i do think it seeks -- speaks to an element of conservativism that says if you want to be the an american company, take pax benefits, do all these thing...