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grabs, dysfunction and this is not a partisan criticism. understand this, it's embarrassing, it's dysfunctional. it's dangerous, it's stupid. those are the word that is republicans have used. >> 11 rounds of voting and we still don't have a house speaker. as the deadlock enters a fourth day we have new reporting about another potential deal in the works that just might give kevin mccarthy the gavel. plus, we get the latest from the war in ukraine as russia calls for a brief cease-fire to observe the orthodox christmas holiday. ukrainians leaders are dismissing the idea. some good new...

That sometimes it's hard to keep things like this in historical perspective. give us your thoughts now as we are two years from that moment. >> well, jonathan, just as you say, been two years, let's go back two years, what if that insurrection, that attack on the capitol, on congress had succeeded? you know, let's say that the rioters were a little bit faster and put the lives of nancy pelosi, the then speaker and the vice president at the time mike pence in danger, they could have been killed. there could have been a hostage situation. there could have been more violence, there are signs dona...