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very hard for him. remember the largest number of registrations in the united states are independents followed by democrats and republicans, the independents who dislike both parties frankly and 83% of the americans by the way do not want either of these two candidates to run for the presidency this time, those independents save doon not want a convicted felon so i do think that would hurt him. but the numbers are not, even though the polls are tilted his way right now and i think thatis tilted his way right now and i think that is because of all the media attention he is getting rel...

Minimum tax, that would be taken out. >> we also know a lot of real estate partnerships fall into the pass through corporations and they get a big tax cut. the argument is that this is a rerun of how all of the tax arguments are. they're going to say it is trickle down economics, designed to help the wealthy, and they're right. but there is almost no enthusiasm for this with no one among deficit hawks. so he has critics on the left, and he has a lack of enthusiasm. it is what is currently laid out. >> john, we'll be watching the sir -- circus.

People intuitively get numbers like the ones we're citing. people look around and see the kinds of struggles middle class families who are working hard, trying to play by the rules, just trying to get by to do a decent job and keep their family okay, relative to somebody who's earning, you know, $50 million, $100 million a year. as we said earlier, sometimes not even tied to the company's performance. and so it does feed back into public policy, whether it's the minimum wage or some of these kind of fair tax arguments you hear as well. >> jared bernstein, as ever, we're grateful for your exper...

American forces doing it, that is a position that overwhelmingly people in this country agree with. and there were several minutes spent advocating for a position that the american people don't agree with on that. so that was his weakest moment in my view in the debate but i thought he was effective from a presentation perspective, from a conservative prospective on the tax arguments. i would disagree with chris on that. and i just think, though, when you look at this debate, i think this is one of these where all sides will be happy, all sides will be happy with the performance of their candi...

Afghanistan. i don't disagree with that at all. the point is the position the vice president was arguing which is we want to have afghan forces doing that, we want less american forces doing it, that is a position that overwhelmingly people in this country agree with. and there were several minutes spent advocating for a position that the american people don't agree with on that. so that was his weakest moment in my view in the debate but i thought he was effective from a presentation perspective, from a conservative prospective on the tax arguments. i would disagree with chris on that. and i ...