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Persuasive rather than polarising . Kwame kwei armah, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you so much for having me. It is a great pleasure to have you. Now, youve been in the Theatre Business as an actor, a writer and a director for the best part of three decades. Ijust used that phrase, some would call it a cliche, about the culture wars. Does it feel to you that today there is a somewhat toxic culture war . I think youve framed it beautifully. It is toxic, but most importantly, its disingenuous. In my humble opinion. Its used to kind of create political fear. And ourjob as artists is, i think, funda...

Ijust used that phrase, some would call it a cliche, about the culture wars. Does it feel to you that today there is a somewhat toxic culture war . I think youve framed it beautifully. It is toxic, but most importantly, its disingenuous. In my humble opinion. Its used to kind of create political fear. And ourjob as artists is, i think, fundamentally to take away that fear, to take away the binaries that i think this farce of the culture wars are. You know, i often hear politicians and im not one to diss politicians, but i also often hear politicians use race or class or immigration or use hist...

Until the right started talking about it. right, but his argument is that it doesn't really have a place in the culture, the university culture or otherwise in culture in the united kingdom, because we didn't have slavery, at least not on our home shores, we didn't have official segregation as they did in the united states, and that burdening, for example, young people in the united kingdom with notions of white privilege, of white guilt is a mistake. again, i have to respectfully say that i fundamentally disagree with that. we had a colour bar in this country, and that's why we had things set...

We absolutely have that. there is very little difference, in my humble opinion. and just because we didn't have slavery in this country — which, actually, technically isn't true, because that was up to a certain date — it doesn't mean that certainly up until recently that the overwhelming majority of black people in this country were descendants of those who were enslaved. and just because it happened offshore in the gardens of europe doesn't mean that notions of superiority were not exported from those gardens of enterprise back into the motherland. and i've experienced it in my own life....