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shuffle. huge developments here and abroad that could jumble the race in ways we don't even understand yet. after we left the studio here in new york last night with all the breaking news that we covered, i got to thinking. no, we have been framing this hunter biden laptop story all wrong. there is no hunter biden scandal. everyone knows he's a sad, pathetic, sleazy guy that probably would be running a strip club on the outskirts of vegas if not for his last name. [indiscernible] >> what creeps me out every time. this scandal isn't about joe's ne'er-do-well son. this is now and alway...

If you spend time with desantis in the room, he could be good. he is compelling and has a good story. he is just plain different issues. i disagree with you on the abortion issue. it didn't move the needle for him at all. the needle is moving backwards. >> to your point, is he trying to drop president trump into a debate about abortion for the base? i think sean has hinted at that. >> maybe. but you better get better advisors. karl rove, i don't know. >> god bless karl rove. we are not going back to the bush years. >> that's not really what i mean. get people that understand the campaign. he d...