So if you're in latin america or you're in africa, it's a harder prospect to do that now, particularly in globalization is not in as strong of shape as it has been. >> so let's talk about those kind of countries, because so far we've been talking really about the problems of the rich world. huge government intervention, huge technological change. but for a large number of countries, you know, i'm thinking of india or indonesia, the government can't spend that much money, it doesn't have money to spend, so it has a public health crisis, it has an economic crisis, and it can't borrow at the rock...