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turkey dropped its year long objection. >> adding finland and sweden to nato is consequential. i still think that president putin thinks -- not going to do that. >> the question now facing nato leaders, should they welcome ukraine next even as russia wages war on that country. also ahead, historic flooding, vermont's capital surrounded by water. take a look at this. there is still danger this flooding could get even worse in the coming hours. and later details of the grand juries being seated today in georgia that could decide whether donald trump will be indicted over 2020 electio...

along with joe, willie and me, we have pulitzer prize winning columnist and associate editor of "the washington post," eugene robinson. and president emeritus of the council on foreign relations, richard haass, back with us this morning. >> he somehow becomes even more distinguished. >> he does. >> amazing. >> erudite is the word that come comes to mind. >> yes. willie, we'll get to the whistleblower that comer couldn't find, and then must be humiliated, as they found him in the southern district of new york. >> oh boy. oh no. >> a spy or something like that. we'll get to the details...

Your leadership really matters. my american press heard me say many times, i still think that president putin thinks the way he succeeds is to break nato. not going to do that, especially with you leading. so thank you to be willing to do it. thank you, thank you. >> thank you. >> let's bring into the conversation national security counsel coordinator for strategic communications at the white house, retired rear admiral john kirby. admiral kirby, thanks for being with us this morning. what is the practical impact of having sweden in nato, and what role did president biden have in getting it do...

Military, strong, modern, technologically agile and adept to military that we in the united states know how to operate and train with. they're going to bring to the alliance very, very short order a lot of significant capability to help bolster nato's eastern flank. it is a big -- it is a big development. >> reporter: but at the same time that we are seeing nato celebrate the addition of this newest member expanding once again nato's territory in the light of aggression -- from russia towards ukraine, we're also seeing this deep disagreement at this nato summit about whether to let ukraine int...