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turkey dropped its year long objection. adding finland and sweden to nato is consequential. i still think that president putin thinks not going to do that. the question now facing nato leaders, should they welcome ukraine next even as russia wages war on that country. also ahead, historic flooding, vermont s capital surrounded by water. take a look at this. there is still danger this flooding could get even worse in the coming hours. and later details of the grand juries being seated today in georgia that could decide whether donald trump will be indicted over 2020 election interference in that state. so a lot to talk about. let s begin with the historic nato summit unfolding across the atlantic. next hour we are expecting a bilateral meeting with president biden and turkish president erdogan there in lithuania. this will be an important one to watch. after turkey dropped its objections allowing sweden to join this alliance. sweden s leader, part of this big g ....
Country joining the alliance. and that s i think the question that the president is raising, he mentions that, because it really has not been a topic of much conversation when its very existence seems to be, of course, on the table given russia s invasion. so he s telling them, look, you know, we re on your side, but that doesn t mean that there aren t some requirements you have to meet in order to be part of this alliance. just going back to this go ahead. i just want to push back a little bit on my good friend peter s comment. and that is because corruption has been a huge problem in ukraine. the kleptocracy seeped over from russia into ukraine and most of its former leaders were quite corrupt. however, zelenskyy has removed some of his own senior leaders for corruption reasons and i think he s making a huge effort to clean the place up and i don t think anyone is claiming he s personally corrupt. and let s compare to other members of nato. i wouldn t say hungary or poland ....
Are perfect democracies and i wouldn t say the united states is a perfect democracy either. so, just saying, i don t think the test is quite that. i think the problem is, as elizabeth said, and i said, that there is war going on, disputed boundaries and the goal is to get to a win for ukraine against russia and then obviously have ukraine become part of a 33-member alliance to block russian aggression ever again. peter, any other thoughts on that before i move on? no, no, i wouldn t disagree with any of that. i think that s right. there is going to be a test for ukraine in the next year because they are in a war state. and they have consolidated their media into a single state entity right now. the question is whether they re going to go forward with elections next year. no question zelenskyy made real progress, at least as judged by western analysts in terms of cracking down on corruption. it is just it is an endemic problem there and there is ....
A war. right now we re in a war. the question is what would that kind of messaging have on putin s decisions or pathways toward an end to this current war. and i think there would be a big obstacle. the chicago council on global affairs this week is going to be releasing new survey data we did with the last remaining independent polling organization in russia and seven in ten russians according to this survey have said that preventing ukraine from joining nato is a top justification, a top benefit of russia s current war with ukraine, and that and that ukraine s membership in nato would be a threat to russia. so if you think about that, you know, just really practically speaking, what it becomes is an obstacle to putin ultimately accepting peace at any point because and it changes the calculation of the russian people and the russian political class, over whether or not they re willing to back putin in this war. if we look at it from that perspective, it doesn t help us get to the ....
Meantime. if you balance that, the nato allies should be considering how it will impact that outcome and putin s willingness to end the war. peter, beyond article five and this ongoing war and the thought being you can t allow ukraine into the war, because we re all at war, is it clear what else ukraine may need to prove to be allowed into the nato alliance? look, it is important you heard president biden talk about democracy as well as security because in fact ukraine is not a perfect moxie and doesn t have a long track record of european style democracy. it has been a pretty tumultuous place and a lot of corruption and still has a lot to prove. it is obviously proven its courage and its desire to be its own independent country and it impressed the world with that. but if it were not at war right now, the question is would this system as it currently stands in ukraine meet the standards that nato asks for in a democratic ....