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>> right hand or left hand? >> his right hand, and i held it in my left hand. >> okay. >> and what happened next? >> officer lucky started to say something about don't do that. don't tense up, stop doing that, and then it just went chaotic. >> what do you remember happening after that? >> i remember a struggle with officer lucky and the driver at the door. the driver was trying to get back into the car. >> while he was trying to get back in the-what did you do? >> i went around officer lucky as they were trying to get back in the door. i'm between the door and officer lucky, and -- and the dri...

Right hand. >> right hand or left hand? >> his right hand and i held it in my left hand. >> what happened next? >> officer lucky started to say something about don't do that. don't tense up. stop doing that. and then it just went chaotic. >> what do you remember happening after that? >> i remember a struggle with officer lucky and the driver at the door. the driver was trying to get back into the car. >> while he was trying to get back in the car, what did you do? >> i went around officer lucky as they were trying to get back in the door in between the door and officer lucky and the driver. an...

I reached out to the driver and took out what he had in his right hand? >> right hand or left hand? >> his right hand, and i held it in my left hand. >> what happened next? >> officer lucky started to say something about don't do that, don't tense up. stop doing that. and then it just went chaotic. >> what do you remember happening after that? >> i remember a struggle with officer lucky and the driver at the door. the driver was trying to get back into the car. >> while he was trying to get back in the car, what did you do? >> i went around officer lucky as they're trying to get back in the do...

0 >> where's that at? >> he's currently stationed in florida. >> and your other son, where is he at? >> he's in college in north dakota. >> are they going to be home for the holidays? >> yes, they will. >> is your mother in the courtroom? >> yes. >> and your sister? >> no, she's not. >> but is your brother in the courtroom. >> yes, he is. >> and besides your brother and your mother, your father is deceased? >> yes. >> and do you have any other siblings? >> i have another sister and a brother. >> what do they -- do you know what their ages are? >> my oldest sister is in her 50s and my other bro...

0 >> no, they are not. >> and where is nicholas? >> he is an active duty marine. >> and where is that at? >> he's currently stationed in florida. >> and your other son, where is he at? >> in college in north dakota. >> and are they going to be home for the holidays? >> yes, they will. >> is your mother in the courtroom? >> yes. >> and your sister? >> no, she's not. >> but is your brother in the courtroom? >> yes, he is. >> and besides your brother and your mother and your father is deceased? >> yes. >> and do you have any other siblings? >> i have another sister and a brother. >> do you know w...