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Dead. we know that sophisticated terrorist networks in this day and age have a great ability to cover up their tracks. they've learned the hard way not to use e-mails, not to use ims, not to use cell phone communications, so if you can capture somebody alive and get information from them, you're going to learn a lot more about it. one other item. secretarsecretary of state kerrs scheduled to take a trip to curt you are key tonight. from everything we've heard, the trip is still on. secretary kerry will we'rey all turkish initials for information that may or may not lead to an international ter...

Anwar al-awlaki the u.s. born terrorist, born in new mexico, moved to yemen. was the leader of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. a u.s. citizen who had joined the al qaeda terrorist network and taken out by a drone strike. >> bill: went in on arrest warrant or some kind of charge before al-awlaki got walked. >> he -- whacked. he said he ought to be brought back to u.s. court. >> bill: he would finesse that a little bit by saying look if you have a warrant and have some kind of lawful authority, then we will talk about it. >> we have lawful authority because this man. >> bill: i understand. i'...

Anwar al-awlaki the u.s. born terrorist, born in new mexico, moved to yemen. was the leader of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. a u.s. citizen who had joined the al qaeda terrorist network and taken out by a drone strike. >> bill: went in on arrest warrant or some kind of charge before al-awlaki got walked. >> he -- whacked. he said he ought to be brought back to u.s. court. >> bill: he would finesse that a little bit by saying look if you have a warrant and have some kind of lawful authority, then we will talk about it. >> we have lawful authority because this man. >> bill: i understand. i'...

Anwar al-awlaki the u.s. born terrorist, born in new mexico, moved to yemen. was the leader of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. a u.s. citizen who had joined the al qaeda terrorist network and taken out by a drone strike. >> bill: went in on arrest warrant or some kind of charge before al-awlaki got walked. >> he -- whacked. he said he ought to be brought back to u.s. court. >> bill: he would finesse that a little bit by saying look if you have a warrant and have some kind of lawful authority, then we will talk about it. >> we have lawful authority because this man. >> bill: i understand. i'...

How operationally involved he has been within the terrorist network. and clearly now, he's going to be tried in new york. the family is here in new york will get to come to the court and see justice be done. >> bob, you know more about the cia's operations than many people. what do you make of this? it's pretty bond-like, isn't it? the way they swooped on this guy and pulled him into new york. clearly, caused a lot of eruptions over in washington. what do you think of the operation itself? >> oh, i think it was well done. i mean, picking him up in turkey, getting the turks to go along with thi...