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That. 50 years ago the black-white test score gap was twice as big as the gap between rich and poor children. now the gap between rich and poor children in test scores is roughly twice as big as the black-white test score gap. it's partly because we've made good progress in narrowing the black-white test score gap in the past 50 years but partly because of -- i think it's going to make it harder and harder for children to achieve the american dream. because if you grow up poor the promise of america is always that you could pull yourself up with the help of your community and achieve but if th...

Is not accurate. we should hit multiple points throughout the day, whether it's reading or writing scores or setting them up for success beyond the school day. >> i would like to go back to the issue of baggage and where the students are coming from. i believe a lot of students do have issues at home that are hard for them to face but it's our job as educators to make sure we are keeping the same high standard for all students, otherwise, we can't just pity them. the whole world has low standards for -- or many of my kids, the whole world has low standards for them. i understand things are goi...

Kindergarten, they put money into third grade, because that was what they were immediately accountable for. so ultimate issue is, how do we actually do this investment? and that's part of the reason why, on an accountability system, you need to actually have more than the test score. but, ultimately, this takes governor, mayor, district superintendent, to actually drive these dollars and it also takes education of the public, which is why i'm so grateful that you're doing this, to say, this is a really good concrete, tangible investment. >> it's science. again, susie cornered me and just laid ...

Success. it's not a test score, it's having the skills and the ability to function in the world to be a good human being, to have a good heart, and to be able to apply your thoughts where you believe in yourself. you can't do anything successfully until you believe you can be successful. >> all right. that is right. brian, you heard it there. can't believe in yourself, how can you succeed? >> while i have you, tamara, which teacher changed your life? >> earn steen rose. she told me to believe in my self. i receive add paper that had so much red on it and i thaurt it meant something good, and i...

Accountability tool, no child left behind became about the test not about teaching kids. >> you are saying it's not the principle of federal government you disagree with, it's the mechanism in no child left behind? >> exactly. it was the fact that shining the spotlight was important, but the way in which the accountability system got implemented was everything was -- the goal was accountability. the goal was doing well on a test score, which again was not aligned to what kids needed to do. but having said all that, there has to be a real balance between local authority, because schools are ver...