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Want to? vice president says, "i wouldn' want any one person to have tha authority." the president says, "no, no, no you don't understand, mike, you can do this. i don't want to be your friend anymore if you don't do this." >> trump would not relent. at 1:00 a.m. on january 6 he tweeted, "if vice president mik pence goes through for us we will win the presidency. mike you can send it back." and then there was mornin phone call in which the president bullied and belittled the vice president, for refusin to go along with this potential coup piece and i remember he said, "you are a wimp, you wi...

Hirschmann and whoever the other young man was said, you can name her whatever you want to name her and no one's going to pay any attention to it. >> how did he respond, how did the president respond to that? >> something like, you see what i deal with, i deal with this all the time. >> reporter: the meeting was extremely heated. with cipollone arguing against the special counsel idea and against seizure of voting machines. >> that the federal government seize voting machines? it's a terrible idea. that's not how we do things in the united states. there's no legal authority to do that. the thr...

Happen here. and that order and many of the other things that we've learned through our hearings have been really stunning to me. because repeatedly i found myself in a situation thinking, my gosh, how could this happen here? and we really thought it couldn't. but it's just continued to emphasize for all of us that our institutions are fragile. >> reporter: the appointment of the special counsel was not hypothetical. trump wanted sydney powell, a prominent peddler of election lies, in the spot. >> we asked pat cipollone if he had the authority to name me special counsel. and he said yes. and t...

Within a paralyzing constitutional crisis. >> there's just no way that the framers of the constitution we divided power and authority, wh separated it out, who had broke away from george iii and declared him to be a tyrant, there is know a that they would have put in the hands of one person the authority to determine who was going to be president of the united states. >> but president trump now saw vice president pence prame as a man who could keep him in the white house for four more years. >> on december 23rd, president trump retreated a memo from a individual named everett raichlen entitled...

>> he said, judge, they know john eastman?" i said, "years, john was a quic one about 20-25 years ago. and he said, "microjet is advising the president and vice president at the vice president does not have to accept the electoral college votes as they have been cast." i said, well, richard you can tell the vice president that i said he has no such authority whatsoever." >> what did you take to twitter? the next morning richard called and he said, "look, we have to get your voice out to the country immediately, within the next hour or two. >> judge colluding, with the help of his son, since ...