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jeanine pirro, harold ford jr. alon smith and will cain. it's 5:00 in new york city. and this is the five ron desantis and gavin newsom throwing down in th e epic red versus blue state debate on "hannity". >> the two hige h profileh governors talking trash for months and finally getting the chanceinally to hammer each other's record face to face. >> they tx much, they regulate too much. they have a political agenda. the for aa good climat business. >> they've lost a lot of companies. california dominates sizable l 21 state populations combined,o. the fifth largest economy in the worl...

Who are afraid to send their kids to school, because not enough kids are masked or vaccinated. >> superintendent, you received a letter from the federal education secretary, who has said, i want you to know that the i want you to know tha th they're even saying that they will -- that you'll be able to use affordable care act funds to pay educators if the governor withholds salaries in contravention of the mandate. what do you think will happen here. how is this going to end? will teachers and up doing what they have to do? will the school districts do with they have to do in contravention of w...

Unfortunately, we have been taught through generation of sexual abuse and that you just don't talk about it. bureau -- the bureau of justice statistics released date tha th 60% of black women experienced violent sexual atault before the age of 18. a lot of those women in the concert are themselves victims. >> i want you to respond to that. there was this cascade of allegations and stories that came out about many men. are you seeing that is that right to change when things are made against black men by black women. >> i think black women are finally state-of-the-arting to fe -- starting to fee...

Feed stocks in their chemical companies. so they're moving new production into the u.s. and that creates greater job opportunities, that creates a demographic shift, higher household formation. >> you also have -- one of the things interesting, we excerpted in our current issue. we love meredith. i thought was interesting is the way these governors are kind of competing to bring companies and that's a big part of the story now, more so than ever before. you mentioned how mitch daniels tha th has done a lot. they like corporate ceos trying to get business. recruit people from connecticut to flo...

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