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Trillion worth of debt next year and over the next four years. who debt are we borrowing here? they're unwilling to step up to thelate and help democratso that work as i sai is irresponsible. >> thankou very muchor joining us tonight. really appreciate it >> tha you. and joining us now is a congressional historian, the emeritus scholar at the american terpri institute. norm, it sounds like the debt lit would probably have to go into t reconciliation bill. is that where we are? >>hat's clearly what mcconnell is trying to achieve. and there is something perverse about it from his perspective. ...

Peer the senate would come to the same conclusion as mueller and barr. >> let's be honest, they are already doing impeachment, they just won't formally call it tha that. they are basically doing it. nothing i come back to, the guy quizzed on the oversight committee a long time, this is not legitimate. when we were in control and it was president obama, we did legitimate oversight bid we looked at when the irs targeted people for their political beliefs. we looked in the scandal with gunrunning and a border agent lost his life because of that. we looked into the fact that when the tragedy in be...

Born in this country, he shouldn't be the president of the united states. >> the loudest voice in the birther movement has, of course, now been elected president. >> why doesn't he give his birth certificate. he says he has a birth certificate. so either they don't have one, which is very bad, or there's something on it tha he doesn want people to see. >> the birther movement has roots in racism, there's no question about it. >> i have people that have been studying, and they cannot believe what they're finding. >> you have people now down there searching in hawaii. >> absolutely, and they can...