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Regarding the specific call it's hard to know exactly what happened until, for instance, the president of the united states and his white house start to be more forthcoming with the details if they ever are going to or plan to in the first place. when it comes to that readout from the ukrainian side whether or not the president of the united states on that call or any other conversation with this foreign leader was explicit or not about a quid pro quo it certainly did seem that senior staffers on the ukrainian side seemed to come away with that impression as outlined by that readout. so this i...

For him and what has to make sure is that this remains a donald trump problem. there will be people out there, they're going to be conservative commentators that are lighting this up trying to make this a joe biden problem. so i think that if he's able to keep the scrutiny on donald trump the story line with rudy giuliani is really -- there's so much there, there's so much that can be aired out for him and if he's able to really seize on this i think this will be a winning issue for him, of course, what has been the investigations that are going on in congress are going to be making donald tru...