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Will use a skull and cross bones. >> all right. let me get to sharon. do you feel like your survival and the survival of sites like yours is at stake if you have the payroll, you are paying these reporters and in your view this stuff is being -- >> we have a much larger payroll, actually. >> i don't think so. your ceo what you have 15 people, newser is a small site. it's not just about -- michael, if you would like to respond for me, that's okay, too. >> sharon, you have the floor. >> thank you. as a matter matter this is a relatively small issue, but as a principle of how we gather and consum...

Frequently. >> he wanted to you pick it up? >> yes. >> hello, sharon? >> he did. >> he did. >> he did want it but he didn't want you to pick it up without putting a link to it. >> i have the e-mail. i'll send you the e-mail. after the story appeared -- >> michael, will you -- >> he was very -- >> answer her question. >> will i put the link in the story? sharon, do you listen to me? one link, two links, three links. they're there. i mean, do you not read the site? >> our bigger problem -- i did, i checked it last night again and there is not. >> this is really easy to document. it will be docum...

Aggregate. it surprises me who michael wolff who is a veteran journalist, and know what it takes to get the news, would not want to set up a site to give credit and allow those sources on which he relies to get some benefit out of it. that's the equation. either you pay money or you send traffic back to the sources. >> i have to go. i have 15 seconds. >> sharon interests are in what is good for the media interest. my interest is what's good for the readers. what we have to do as people in this business is think about our readers, not ourselves. >> i have to think about our viewers. we have to ...

Nuclear option, i think the electorate has come to face we live in this site. for them to say the president has had his way, it's more than a chuckle. but i think republican also agree. as long as the president don't pick who has somebody who has personal baggage or some sort of real skeleton in the closet, i think he's going to get his way. i think this will go through. >> having 59 democratic senators does help with that. i want to ask you both about another controversy this week, in virginia, bob mcdonell declaring confederate history month, a huge media flap ensued, he was on the front of ...

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