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Movements from the other governing party? >> i mean, look, first of all, thank you for having me today. it is a central tenet of the biden presidency, it is part of the reason that he ran. it is part of the reason that he is in the white house in the first place, is that when he and the rest of us looked at trump's presidency, the great irony of the trump presidency was that he claimed, president trump claimed to be a sort of champion, a populous champion of the little guy, and yet at the same time embraced the worst autocratic leaders around the world. not only embraced them, this is kim jong...

Have a u.s. president say, we will not stand for these kind of human rights abuses in a way that biden's predecessor deliberately did not. >> absolutely. and this is a cornerstone of joe biden's foreign policy approach. is integrating human rights, international human rights issues into his foreign policy agenda at every point. and that's why it's been so important for him to call out the russian leader on these human rights abuses, to condemn him, and even sanction the russians for their treatment of alexei navalny as the administration did earlier this year. but the russian president is cons...

Meeting. among them, the issue of a global 15% corporate tax rate. no small thing in the world of business. we have natasha bertrand with us as we wait for president biden toe merge. it's interesting, we were talking earlier about the u.s. and russian leaders establishing clear red lines on issues like cyber. echos the cold war, does it not, right? this idea that they have to set these red lines in part because they're concerned about genuine escalation. the danger of escalation. and it peaks to, as i mentioned, both biden and putin describing the relationship today, as the worst it's been in ...

Said, well, they're prosecuting their protesters and we're prosecuting ours. it is the same. it is obviously not the same, but putin loves to draw these kind of moral equivalencies to show that the united states does not have the moral high ground. >> you're seeing the president there, about to enter what's known as the beast. that is the u.s. president's heavily, heavily armored limousine. it travels with the president, as does air force one. again, the president joined there, it looks like he's giving the swiss president a ride in the beast on to their bilateral meeting, this will take place...

Civil discussion. and right now, what the president and what the white house really wants, again, is just to create these incremental kind of steps that they can take with the russians to say, there's still kind of a cold, you know, understanding here that we're not going to be perfectly aligned to say the least on any issues, but at least we can work together on some issues. critics of this summit say, the u.s. and russia's interests are really not aligned at all, and it is too -- the russian president is too unpredictable to actually rely on him to make any kind of meaningful changes. and of...