The kind of activity we've been doing on the border between pakistan and afghanistan. there have been 21 drone strikes so far in 2011. as many as 141 deaths so far this year. there's a real tension now that's emerged between the pakistani -- the pakistani military and their government and our own. doesn't, this karen, sort of defeat the whole purpose? it just makes me think we're even in sort of deeper trouble when we think about what we're doing in afghanistan if we can't cooperate and get some of this tough, but secretive work done on that border. >> yeah. well, i think it also underscores j...