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Early hours of wednesday morning still had not called mr. youngkin. but the point was clear. he had narrowly lost the virginia governor's race according to cnn's projection. it was the voters in the middle that simply did not support terry mcauliffe this time. so democrats now certainly going through recriminations. how this defeat could have happened. certainly a rejection of the biden administration's agenda, a split screen moment. president biden landing back in the u.s. from a week abroad to this news that certainly will shake this democratic party. terry mcauliffe, of course, underestimat...

Joins me now. professor, thank you very much for joining us. good morning to you. let's start with what you saw in virginia. a big win for republicans and big blow, i think it's fair to say, to democrats. what does this win, would you say, by youngkin tell you about the mood as well as the voter sentiment in the u.s. right now? >> well, it's great to be with you, is other. thanks so much for having me. i think what we saw in virginia was especially significant. there is a desire to tie the outcome to national politics. first and foremost, youngkin's win reflects a successful statewide campaign...

If they can do that, i think they can have a better chance of maintaining control of congress in 2022. >> well, let's have a look at the race at the moment in new jersey. a very tight call, if we can bring it up with the latest numbers in the governor's race. it's neck and neck this moment. i think 100 votes or so separates them as you can see, ciattarelli from murphy. what does this tell you? no one expected, i suspect, this to be such a narrow race, thomas. what do you make of this? >> well, you're right. and just the fact that ciattarelli is making a serious play against an incumbent in new...

This morning, thomas, might be waking up to quite a headache. hai do they solve this? where do they move the needle if we're talking about the midterms here? >> that's a great question, isa. the real question is what lesson will democrats draw going into the midterms. i can already hear some on the left saying the reason democrats are on the ropes, they aren't pushing enough of the spending bills. joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are the problem. the progressive agenda. if that's the takeaway, it will be a mistake. they were reminded of what 2010 looked like when soundly defeated by a republican...