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the medium answer is that we need to employ a little bit of political sophistication because it doesn't mean we have to be such antagonists all the time that we just mad. there are no permanent friends and no permanent enemies. what the congresswoman talked about is where we seem to fall short which is from the church's perspective, what is our political agenda so we know how to engage everybody all the time. which means that you won't always be my friend because there are going to be some issues i got to roll on you on. and i can't be afraid of doing that because i want to come to y...

evangelical movement that has bamboozled the black brethren. what's the method, what's the move to attempt to rally those that congresswoman waters have referred to who are not really concerned because there's no food on the table. there's no jobs. how do we make the connection? what's the agenda to make the connection between the political process and not being bamboozled. if that makes sense? >> we're going to go to congresswoman sheila jackson lee. >> thank you, congresswoman and let me just thank the panel. thank our co-chairs. congressman rangel and congressman cedric richmond a...

then the other thing that some of you do already, we can do better is to get people to the polls on election day by picking them up. but organize it and get a lot of those young people in the church to do this work. so we have to do that for the immediate. but as we plan, get with the black caucus and the elected officials as we plan for the future to talk about how the people in our communities know the difference between what we say and what we do. that's extremely important. so i still believe and i'll just wrap this up, that the church has power. i think again as i said when i fi...

control the message, then control the message. and don't let your people be controlled by a religious right simply because they are more aggressive. hijack the message from them the way they hijacked it from us. >> thank you. thank you so much. congresswoman waters. >> i think jeff johnson talked about what we do now and what we do as we plan for the future. right now we've got the problem of exciting people, getting them to the polls. we've only got another, what, five, six months before november. the primaries are going on all over the country. and so know your state laws. and i wa...