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Counfident they can win at the appellate level, the 9th circuit in san francisco and then ultimately goes to the u.s. supreme court. are you as confident that they can succeed. >> i'm confident they will ultimately prevail. but, the 9th circuit court of appeal, interestingly, the most liberal court in the entire country, most liberal appellate court in the country has supported arizona's position on every anti-illegal immigration measure that has been brought before it. and that is important to remember, and i think that that is a surprise to most people. bill: does it stop there or is that th...

Big way after 40 years in congress, is his reign about to end? charlie rangel made a comment moments ago to reporters on the hill, with the house ethics committee, at some point this morning and said 60 years ago he survived an attack by the chinese and north korea and wrote a book about it and said that was the worst day of his life. and now he says, today i will have to reassess that statement. we're waiting for the charges to be made public and charges that could be quite serious for charlie rangel. age 80, apparently still going down with a fight. at 42 minutes past the hour we'll check wi...

Have to worry at this point if they can't get him to step down, if they can't get him to remove himself from the public eye, this really starts to hurt the rest of the democratic party because people are going to be saying when they hear these charges aired publicly, look, this is a bad guy, with substantive charges, why wasn't he gone earlier. bill: stephen, thank you, that's the lead story this morning. we're waiting on news and when we get it, we'll bring it to you here. for more on this, capitol hill, log on, foxnews.com, read the pocket guide to the house ethics committee and get backgrou...

Found some evidence of wrongdoing. then, the public hearing will begin at 1:00 eastern time, this afternoon. representative jane green, a democrat from texas and jo bonner, a republican from alabama headed the investigative panel and will present their reports to the 8 members you talkeded about of the ajudicatory committee and that committee ultimately will recommend a punishment, perhaps, once they get a report and do the public trial they'll send to the full ethics committee and this is all barring any kind of last-minute deal that happens before the hearing begins. bill: there could be a d...

Waiting to see which way this is going to go. doug stern, good morning to you, you worked in washington n. new york, you asked a good question during the commercial, you said why not cut a deal. >> i know. first of all, with the caveat that it's hard to handicap what's going on behind closed doors, in other words, the discussions between rangel's lawyers and the house lawyers -- >> bill: maybe he's cut ago deal. >> it's very possible but frankly i'm surprised it's going so close to the deadline, 1:00 today, where the house ethics committee is suppose to make public these charges. bill: if he m...