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And i believe we have to win here. i believe in freedom but the fact is that i think mr. steele is going to have to assess as to whether he can still lead the republican party, as chairman of the republican national committee, and, make an appropriate decision. >> gregg: translation, mccain is saying i don't believe they were misconstrued though steele said that, they were not sliced and diced and he's saying do the right thing and political speak, where you are, in washington, what does it mean. >> step aside but it doesn't sound like he'll do that, and when i talked to tom cole today i asked...

This country from trending towards socialism." and page 31 is titled "the evil empire." the old soviet union, of course. in this case, president obama as the joker, again, from the "batman" movie and comics. harry reid from nevada as scooby-doo. who else have they got on there? and nancy pelosi also is cruella deville from the movies. that's pretty rough stuff, ben. you've uncovered it. did the republican people at the rnc deny that this is their approach to getting money out of people? >> you know, michael steele distanced himself from it immediately, particularly for whatever reason from the...

That's pretty rough stuff, ben. you've uncovered it. did the republican people at the rnc deny that this is their approach to getting money out of people? >> you know, michael steele distanced himself from it immediately, particularly for whatever reason from the joker cartoon. they want nothing to do with that. that's unacceptable. >> they whiteface the president. yeah. >> they have not really commented on the substance of it on the question of whether they haven't really gone into detail one way or the other what they think of scaring their donors. though steele did say that -- >> wait a min...

Scooby-doo. who else have they got on there. and nancy pelosi also is cruella deville from the movies. that's pretty rough stuff, ben. you've uncovered it. did the republican people at the rnc deny that this is their approach to getting money out of people? >> michael steele distanced himself from it immediately, particularly for whatever reason from the joker cartoon, they want nothing to do with that. that's unacceptable. they have not really commented on the substance of it on the question of whether oh-they haven't really gone into detail one way or the other what they think of scaring the...