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911 call and the moment that shooter was killed. cnn s shimon prokupecz pushed for straight answers during a press conference on friday. reporter: you say there were 19 officers gathered in the hallway or somewhere. what efforts were made to try and break through that door you say was locked? what efforts were the officers making to try and break through either that door or another door, to get inside that classroom? none at that time. reporter: why? the on-scene commander at the time believed it had transitioned from an active shooter to a barricaded subject. reporter: you have people who are alive, children who are calling 911 saying, please send the police. they are alive in that classroom. there are lives that are at risk. that s not protocol, is it? we re well aware that. reporter: right. why was this decision made not to go in and rescue these children? again, the on-scene commander considered a barricaded subject and that there was time and there ....
Those orders. they re closer, they re by the door, they re hearing what s going on. and, you know, sometimes you have a duty to disobey. i just keep thinking about, why didn t anyone, knowing, seeing, hearing what was going on in that room, just disobey the orders? right, and i do think that s been something that s come up when i ve been talking with people about it, and we ve been discussing it here on the air, a duty to disobey, that obviously law enforcement works with a chain of command, but at that point, again, as someone who has not worked in law enforcement, it would seem to me you can go ahead and sort through that later. right. i ve talked to a bunch of yeah, i ve talked to a bunch of former colleagues, we don t get it, because this is, as i ve been saying the last couple of days, this is so i hate to say easy, but this is a calculation that you actually don t need much thought about. we know, active shooter, eliminate the threat, period. ....
There s nothing else you actually need to think about because all the other problems will cure themselves, so to speak, once you eliminate the threat. so why weren t others, and this is i think the big question, you have a duty to disobey if you re just sitting there and something is wrong. one of the challenges of chain of command is there s an obedience factor to it, because that s actually how it works. but a number of people i ve talked to who have been in those situations, which i haven t, who have been in those situations, would say, you would just know, your judgment would tell you. i have to say this is common in disaster management or crisis management. you do anticipate a certain amount of pivoting and fluidity because the people closest are going to have better judgment calls. almost every disaster responsible will have an element of sort of disobedience, so to speak. it s sort of unfathomable to me. the story we don t quite know yet. the story will change, i m quite ....